Punk Rock and Alleged Sexual Assault: A Timely Story


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Beth's words -- true or not -- have mobilized people. Fans have supported the band at shows and encouraged tourmates to not drop from the tour, at the risk of being labeled "rape apologists" and the threat of physical harm.

"Portland did receive two credible threats from skinhead gangs claiming to beat up fans at the show and bring weapons into it," said the band's spokesperson. "We spoke with the promoter and he suggested we either pull out or get police involved, so the band decided not to play the show out of safety for the fans."

Elizabeth Engle is founder of Put Your Damn Pants On. She said she'd never heard of the Casualties before the blog ran and was surprised to learn what a following the band had.

"From what I've gathered, [Beth's] story wasn't really a shock to most of the people reading - there have apparently been rumors about his behavior for a while," Engle said.
"I am really proud of our readers and the way this has been accepted. We did hear there were threats of violence posted on Facebook and other sites -- that is certainly not what we want and I added a note to the end of her post asking people to not do anything violent or illegal.

"The point of the post wasn't to bring down this band," she added. "It was about the reaction she gets when she shares her story with fans -- the way people are ready to dismiss it even when they believe her."

Which, it turns out, isn't always true. Beth did predict the Casualties' fans would come to the band's defense without all the facts, solely because they love the scene or identify with the band. That happened. What she probably didn't expect was how many readers would do the same for her.


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18 comments
burningthemdown
burningthemdown

Interesting how the email and story appear to be written by different people. The story had a lot of grammar and punctuation issues but the email did not. She doesn't provide any details to solidify her story in the email like who The Casualties played with, what tour they were on and what state the venue was in -- nothing! Oh wait, maybe that's because anyone could trace their footsteps back to where they were at that time and that could give the singer an alibi.

Michael Terry
Michael Terry

She is costing the band gigs/money by saying something that she can't prove. The right thing for the band to do is lawyer up and demand a retraction unless they have something to hide, if that's the case they should sacrifice the accused.

Francisco Muñiz-Belmares
Francisco Muñiz-Belmares

She was not really reporting. I don't think. More of a testament to a general audience. And people not reporting a rape is not entirely uncommon. Sad.

Eric Walls
Eric Walls

Who waits 16 years to report a fucking crime?

Francisco Muñiz-Belmares
Francisco Muñiz-Belmares

The whole punk rock scene is just an overall laughable subculture. I hope that if her accusations can garner some sustainable evidence, that she can see some form of justice. But it seems as though she herself has learned to live with it in some way. So perhaps it ends here? Just a sad rumor and a sad culture. The fans will be fans. I don't think that can be attributed to the punk rock scene, solely. Just look at R.Kelly..or a particular football player who has been accused of some heinous crime. Even hip-hop has the whole "Free XYZ". But, whatever, "Anarchist till the end, man! Fuck the system".... right?

MadMac
MadMac topcommenter

Excellent story, Mr. Sedejas. It's easy to point the finger at Punk Rock shows, or rap shows, or Woodstock 99--and to defend them, than deal with the ugly truth. Is there a current of misogyny to some punk songs/acts? Sure. Listen to Johnny Cash, sometime. And Johnny Cash fans will take a baseball bat to you for calling out his songs.     

Anse
Anse

It's always amusing to me to see folks, in the midst of a frothy outrage, wondering why a girl hasn't reported a rape to police, as if the controversy isn't proof enough. It's like the Islamic radicals who burn cars and beat people up and threaten to kill infidels to protest being described as violent. 

MadMac
MadMac topcommenter

That easy, huh? Well, if I were the accused, I'd be availing myself of the best attack lawyer I could find and suing the doors shut on this ugly, viscious--what's that? more women coming forward? Never mind...

MadMac
MadMac topcommenter

Sixteen-year-old children who don't want to be attacked for reporting it? Also, the statute of limitations is way over this and probably was when she came to terms with what happened to her.

burningthemdown
burningthemdown

@Anse  "as if the controversy isn't proof enough" Yeah, its not like controversy isn't proof or anything. Maybe you should read up on Brian Banks, the West Memphis Three, the Central Park Five or the Scottsboro Boys before saying stupid shit. Controversy means dick in the land where evidence is king.

MadMac
MadMac topcommenter

Excellent point.

eudemonist
eudemonist

@Anse I'm not sure I understand this comment.  Which controversy is "proof enough" of what?

burningthemdown
burningthemdown

@MadMac Depends on the state. Many states offer limitless statutes. And what about all those other victims? Why don't they take advantage of the statutes and do something about it instead of creating internet drama? Oh, probably because they're all full of shit.

burningthemdown
burningthemdown

@MadMac  Did I insult you? No. Logic and reason point to a thing called basic human rights which just so happens to be the presumption of innocence until proven guilty as stated in the universal declaration of human rights. Oh but I guess that fucks up your narrative. You know, for as many people claiming they were victims or knew this was happening its really amazing to me that no one has even bothered to make a formal complaint or get a lawyer as if a cop wouldn't love to arrest a Hispanic male punk rocker. Please, get real. Cops beat the shit out of punks and arrest them for no reason. Sorry, MadMac, you're out of your league when it comes to logic and reason. Can you prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he did it? Oh, no you can't and neither can anyone else. Hey, if he's guilty then cut his balls off but until then this is just another rumor like all the other rumors floating around the punk scene. I once heard from a girl that Dave Dictor of MDC was a pervert and tried to hve sex with her. Little did she know that he's fucking gay.


Imagine this situation had the cameras not been there.

MadMac
MadMac topcommenter

Oh, well that changes everything. How can reason and logic stand up to slinging insults? Composition and rhetoric much?

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