Perry Believes Opposing Slavery Is the Same as Opposing Gay Rights, Apparently

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Opposing slavery is the same as opposing gay rights, right?
I don't think there are many out there that would say Rick Perry is unprincipled. The epithets are plenty, and his mistakes are many, but there are few that would claim that Perry is anything approaching the slippery flip-floppery of Mitt Romney. He's a man of his word.

Thus, when Rick Perry, flying in the face of national sentiment, continues to believe that the Boy Scouts will somehow wither and die should they allow gay scout leaders, it comes as simply yet another nail in his principled coffin. It's not especially newsworthy. But when Perry says he believes opposing gay leaders is akin to, ahem, opposing slavery, well: Then we have something to write about.

First, the video proof:

Perry begins his discussion with the ultra-right Family Research Council -- which has been named a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center for its virulent anti-gay views -- with a discussion of the Scouts' century of achievement. Not entirely sure anyone would object to the claim. But then Perry decides to address the issue of gay leaders in a way that only he could::

For pop culture to come in and try to tear that up because it just so happens to be the flavor of the month, so to speak, and to tear apart one of the great organizations that have served millions of young men, helped them to become men and to become great fathers, and that is just not appropriate. And frankly I hope the American people will stand up and say, 'Not on my watch.'
A couple things: First, Perry, for whatever reason it may be, seems to think that "pop culture" is the main force influencing the recent move to eliminate the anti-gay framework from the Boy Scouts. Our governor seems to believe that a handful of episodes of Modern Family and a few interviews with Jason Collins -- rather than, say, the slow realization that gay men and women are a threat to neither society nor children -- have somehow put the Boy Scouts in a bind. Moreover, such "flavor of the month" attitudes will undoubtedly fade, and such a push for orientation equality, like acid jeans or Pogs before it, will clearly pass into memory. No sense changing the Scouts for something as transient as gay rights.

(Christ, Perry. Do you actually believe this? Or are you just that good at pandering?)

But that's not all. After staking that Sam Houston was the greatest governor Texas had ever seen -- Perry may just have lost Dubya's vote -- he discusses how Houston's antislavery views cost him his governorship. (Interestingly, Perry also notes that Houston was right to not want to secede from the Union. Might have just lost some Sons of Confederate Veterans votes, too.)

Citing Houston's "courage" and "principled leadership," Perry then draws a line directly from Texas's birth to its current state:

If we change and become more like pop culture, young men will be not as well-served, America will be not as well-served, and Boy Scouts will start on a decline that I don't think will serve this country well as we go into the future.
Right, Governor. Sam Houston's stand against human chattel, his progressive views on ending the greatest oppression this nation has ever known -- a view that landed him outside Austin; the divide over which more Americans were killed than in the rest of our wars combined -- is akin to this move to stanch the flow of "pop culture" into an organization founded on principled leadership and humanistic empathy. Your stand against allowing gay men to participate in one of the finest institutions that young, wayward men can join is but an updated version of the antebellum abolitionists who sought to place all humans on equal footing. Your opposition to including gay men in one of the nation's more formative organizations is a modern take on a tale of equality stretching from Moses to Douglass to Susan B. Anthony. Your stance will resound in the halls of eternity. Of course.

It's the principle of the thing, Governor. Continue sticking to it. Because if Houston's experience is any example, this may be the best hope we have of landing you outside Austin. If nothing else, your principles only keep more people aware of the Scouts' discrimination. And that will only bring about the policy's end that much quicker.


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bernerf
bernerf

Republicans still don't get it.  Their hypocrisy on social issues keeps them losing President elections.  Seems like they would have learned after the whole "family values" debacle in the Bush/Clinton election that America is becoming more open-minded on social issues.  That is what turns off many of us moderate independant voters.  Romney should flat out stated what he really was which is fiscally conservative but a moderate on social issues instead of pandering to the far right in the Republican Party.  But then of course he would not have been nominated anyway...

Amy McMullen
Amy McMullen

If anybody needs to be impeached, Perry needs to be. He's been such a bumbling idiot! We Texans are appalled at his tongue! At leased I am! WE NEED A NEW GOVERNOR! One that properly represents TEXAS! One that make a speech without degrading his state!

Ken Roberts
Ken Roberts

Sam Houston was one of those funny "abolitionists" that owned slaves and did not want to see slavery outlawed. Were he to follow his metaphor, Perry should be gay married....I feel sorry for his husband. Note: Sam Houston was against succession and that did cost him the governorship....but that is not the same as being an abolitionist.

Bobby Beamer
Bobby Beamer

He's just mad because some men choose to shave their balls and he doesn't have any hair on his...

Doc Mardaga
Doc Mardaga

Rick the fuckwit Perry needs to go!!!!

Stanley Smith
Stanley Smith

Gays vote, own property, adopt children, run Fortune 500 companies, hold local, state, and federal office, comparing "gay rights" to owning, buying, selling and keeping people as slaves is in a word, stupid. Don't be stupid, down compare slavery to gay marriage. Yes, I'm in favor of gay marriage, not stupidity.

Bobby Younce
Bobby Younce

Nobody can decipher what he thinks or if he thinks. It is the Politician Picture of Dorian Gray that he is that defines him. Unerringly pandering is his only consistancy. -bobby99

Josh Wueller
Josh Wueller

Perhaps the ballsiest straw man argument I've ever seen. Comparing the PROTECTION of equal rights under the Fourteenth Amendment to slavery? Come on, Perry. Quit disgracing my home state.

Sara Samora
Sara Samora

And this is one of the reasons why I don't want to return to Texas. HAHA!

Enid Davis
Enid Davis

remember this is a fool that has some property call Niggerhead, he is a bastard and has just ruined my state along with the rest of the redneck republickkkans.

Rose Marie DeAngelis
Rose Marie DeAngelis

He is the worst thing that happened to this state ever. I Can't stand him. He has no way to be in this position. He had to have bought it, cause everyone I know never voted for this MORON

TexTaxAtty
TexTaxAtty

Casey, you do have some of your facts wrong.  First, I'm not a fan of Perry...he's about 98% idiot.  But you are wrong about the percentage of those that support lifting the ban on gays in Scouts.  You cite "flying in the face of national sentiment," yet the sentiment of those in Scouts (families and the boys) strongly support keeping the ban (60-70% support).  And you also assert that the organization won't wither and die if the ban is lifted.  You are apparently ignorant that over 70% of all scout units (troops and packs) are supported by churches, namely LDS, Baptist, Methodist, and Catholic.  You can forget them sponsoring the local units anymore if the ban is lifted.  Without a local charity to sponsor a unit (financial and meeting space), the organization WILL wither and die.  Perry may have made a moronic arguement, but he was correct in his conclusions.

globalclas
globalclas

as a debate coach, I give this round to Casey. Good job refuting the governor seeking to wrap his argument in the tradition of Sam Houston.........well done!  Jim Henley

globalclas
globalclas

as a debate coach, I will have to give this round to Casey! Not easy to refute the illogical comments of a guy wrapping himself is the tradition of Sam Houston........ well done!


Lynn Fulfs
Lynn Fulfs

Typical Rick. Pandering to the "Fundamentalist" voters. His expiration date has long passed.

Jim Costello
Jim Costello

The headline you've chose is an obvious attempt to polarize and slather the governor in vague and broad topics. The meat of thr story was whether openly gay scout leaders should be accepted in BSA. The governor believes they shouldn't. Look around....gay athletes coming out, gay military, etc. All on massive display for our public consumption. Whether we like it or not. Perhaps that is what he means by "pop culture"? I don't know or care. I've been a volunteer scout leader for 4 years and I just want to see caring and supportive parents/ leaders involved with kids. The scout system is full of fun, informative, and character developing material! I don't care about the gender choice of the leader... I just want them to be involved positively!

Karen Gilligan
Karen Gilligan

It is often the money that makes politicians stupid (paid by interest groups); but poor old Rick is just dumb as dirt!!!

John Hodges
John Hodges

How typical for our "governor"... Instead of committing more funding to actually FIGHT the fires that were burning down the state, he tells everyone to "pray for rain"... All hat. No cowboy..

PC Cavazos
PC Cavazos

much ado about nothing, other than this HP writer's bias

Cindy Ellison
Cindy Ellison

Does this guy have a higher education than sixth grade?

Christopher Kasmiroski
Christopher Kasmiroski

Who cares, I'm sick of the Gay crap! How about treat everyone equal and with respect.

Chad Inmon
Chad Inmon

The reason people take this particular issue so personally is the insinuations that being opposed to allowing openly gay scouts makes. I mean, why are you opposed to allowing people of different sexual orientations to both be scouts? Why should it even matter? I was a scout when I was younger and I certainly don't remember sexuality ever being a topic of discussion, so I can't see how it should play any more of a role than the color of someones hair or skin. To those of us who don't see a problem with it, we can only assume that those who do are implying that allowing gay scouts and scout leaders would somehow "corrupt" the organization, or even worse, "corrupt" the other scouts. It's a stance that's offensive to it's very core simply because there's an implication that somebody who's gay can't participate in the same activities as somebody who's not because people see them as deviants who can't be trusted. So whether or not you're "fighting for what you believe is right", the fact stands that "what you believe is right" is ultimately very very wrong; and no matter how much you may try to whitewash your stance with claims of morals or values or the right of an organization like the Boy Scouts to choose who they allow as members, the simple reality is that you're throwing your support behind an idea that is ultimately rooted in fear and bigotry.

Suz Warren
Suz Warren

How does this guy keep getting elected?

Bill Burkholder
Bill Burkholder

Reminds me of his idiocy at the debates, when he compared climate denialists to Galileo!

Lyndsey Stang
Lyndsey Stang

Your title is horrible. He wasn't saying that. He was talking about how something was popular back then and popular now. It's not about the subject. I don't care for him but at least write a better article and not try to start arguments.

Alisa Thompson
Alisa Thompson

He didn't say that exactly... What the headline says. Way to be misleading.

Michael Kulig
Michael Kulig

One of the most asinine comments ever from this knuckle dragging mouth breather. Did he ever discover the 3rd agency he wanted to shut down?

Michael Castillo
Michael Castillo

Well it only goes to show he is a will spew bs n sway to gain a vote. Texas is 27th in education and one of the lowest in nental healthcare. Yet is near top for business, what does this mean? Texas will one day have dumb ceo's or a welfare state. Ill regress to the topic..he is all wishy washy lol

Daniel Rex
Daniel Rex

It's simple, he believes in standing up and fighting for what you believe is right. I happen to agree with him. You may disagree. also the headline is disingenuous.

Luisa Inez Newton
Luisa Inez Newton

Rick Perry might want to read biographies of guys like Alexander the Great or Oscar Wilde so he'd know that being gay is not a "flavor of the month." Additionally, he should remember that Sam Houston owned slaves, but did not want Texas to secede from the Union because Houston didn't want slavery expanded. Gay rights are about freedom, RIcky, why would you want to leave gay folks "enslaved" to unjust laws?

Missy Jane
Missy Jane

I'm still amazed how every new thing out of his mouth proves to be more and more idiotic.

Cody Matthew London
Cody Matthew London

To be fair the Family Research Council and the Southern Poverty Law Center are two antiquated organizations.

Enidbette Ruiz
Enidbette Ruiz

Texas is slowly turning into a blue state. Sorry to burst your bubble.

casey.michel
casey.michel

@TexTaxAtty The "flying in the face of national sentiment" comment was directed toward the entirety of the American polity, in which 56%, according to the latest ABC/WaPo poll, believe the ban on gay scout leaders should be lifted: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/on-faith/wp/2013/05/09/most-americans-support-lifting-ban-on-gay-boy-scouts/

And if you believe the Boy Scouts will "die" should the ban be lifted, so be it. I'll disagree with such hypothetical, positing that current organizations will either maintain such support, or other organizations will support such a group.

Liberal
Liberal

@Enidbette Ruiz Please get rid of that filthy governor of yours. Doesn't anybody in Texas realize that voting for that douchebag is like voting for against their own interests? 

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