Nearly Half of Republicans Believe an Armed Revolution May Be Imminent. No, Seriously.

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Looks like we may be seeing more of you soon, Mr. Lincoln
It's been a while since we've experienced a good, wholesome armed revolution. We had one a few hundred years ago, birthing our nation. Texas had its own just a a few generations after that, bringing us another nation, and another state. And while the Confederacy faltered during the mid-19th-century, it was good to get another attempted revolution out of our system.

But then, nothing. Here we are, sweltering 150 years later, sitting with more or less the same guv'mint we've known since the Civil War. Sure, women and minorities are finally on par with the rest of us -- well, most minorities, at least -- but we're still looking at the Stars and Stripes. Nothing's changed. Freedom's the same as it ever was.

Fortunately, according to a new poll, there's a large swath of Americans who believe that an armed rebellion may be just beyond the horizon. The numbers, after the jump, should give pause to those who've grown complacent with the whole freest-nation-in-the-land! line that so many of us repeat without a moment's thought. To arms!

Per new numbers from Fairleigh Dickinson University, 29 percent of the nation's registered voters believe that, "[i]n the next few years, an armed revolution might be necessary in order to protect our liberties." For those keeping track, that's approximately 75 45 million Americans who've been sufficiently streamed enough bloodlust and rancor to believe that their liberty has been, or could be, infringed, and that their sawed-off shotguns will somehow, some way, provide sufficient recourse for bringing those liberties back. All within the next few years.

(Two quick points: Despite all of the post-Newtown screeching, there remains no evidence that civilian arms rates positively correlate with either democratic ideals or anti-autocracy revolutions, especially over the previous decade. Moreover, to anyone who believes the Second Amendment is somehow a guarantor of personal liberty, I have 110,000 Asian-Americans interned during WWII who you may want to speak with.)

There is, perhaps expectedly, a partisan split to the numbers. (I'm fairly certain those anticipating revolution won't be fighting over FISA violations and federal marijuana restrictions in Washington and Colorado.) Eighteen percent of Democrats see a potential revolution, while 44 percent of Republicans think they may need to soon take up arms against democratically elected, term-limited officials in Washington. I'll save the thesis on the fracture between pragmatic- and base Republicans, but, suffice it to say, the Republican electorate doesn't have simply a jagged, militarized wing that can remain ignored. This isn't some fraction that can be ignored. Nearly half of the Republicans in this nation think revolution may be imminent.

Think about that. Think about the implications. Think about this reality as you traipse through this weekend's NRA Convention at George R. Brown Convention Center, browsing the Best! and Newest! arms that you, with your Second Amendment in tow, can buy. Think about all the social science -- say, from the Journal of the American Medical Association, perhaps -- that illustrates the stark and cozy relationship between firearm fatalities and states that employ fewer gun laws.

It seems obvious that, despite Obama's reelection, the fever's not yet broken. This faction, if anything, seems to be growing, such that nearly half of the most racially exclusive major party in America now believes that an armed revolution may be just beyond. Seventy-five million Americans are willing to mow down their countrymen in the defense of, I dunno, greater healthcare option, or the ability to keep gays from gay marryin', or some such. And they think it could be just a handful of years away.

America's bloodiest days were self-inflicted -- and came following the democratic election of a social progressive with a distinct knack for aiding minority rights. History doesn't repeat itself; it remixes. And it may be worth thinking a bit longer on this topic, and on this survey. Because it seems like thirty percent of your countrymen and -women have already made up their minds. And it's been a while since we've had a good domestic bloodbath, anyway.



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Jared Meadors
Jared Meadors

I'd be willing to bet its the same 44% who believe in a talking snake and a virgin birth and that the earth is 5000 yrs old...

Patrick Chatelle
Patrick Chatelle

If the 840 they polled were the richest us citizens, I would worry, there has NEVER been a revolution without major financial backing. And to pre-empt the Muslim haters, Bin Ladin was worth about 500 million, South Africa had oil money, diamond money.

Noelle A. Perry
Noelle A. Perry

i'm not a republican, but i do worry that they'll start something. you have all these right-wing pundits that are ENDORSING the idea of revolution, saying we NEED one, and then you have the people who hang on every word these douchebags say. it's only a matter of time before some unbalanced person/group tries to "start a revolution" because they were told to. and they don't stand a chance, obviously, but the rest of us will suffer because of it.

Matthew Ashton
Matthew Ashton

44% - Doubt it. Imminent – so long as we have a fake 2 party system, fiat money, and continue to ignore the constitution, then YES… that will happen. I imagine it would be military coup d’etat with civilian uprising. The scary part is what happens after.

Perry Dorrell
Perry Dorrell

Ah, so Jim Costello thinks "the polls are skewed"...

Jake Rawls
Jake Rawls

If you really think that will happen, I've got a great bridge to sell you.

Jim Costello
Jim Costello

"Armed Revolution"? Ummm..."Republican Bloodlust!"?...really? This university polls 840 people and then takes this miniscule catastrophized mindset and paints a picture of 75 Million Americans with it? Lame fear mongering if you ask me..."next"!

rgwalt
rgwalt

Our country is increasingly divided by the year.  Religious beliefs, money, moral stances (or lack/differences in all of these) tend to pull people apart.  2A is certainly a hot-button issue.  However, statistics be damned.  I don't particularly care if the "loose" gun laws in Texas make me more likely to die from a gun shot.  Responsible gun owners should not have their rights deprived due to the irresponsiblity and/or criminal acts of others.  Thousands of people die each year due to drunk drivers.  We don't, in turn, deprive responsible drinkers of the ability to purchase and consume alcohol (or vehicles). 

Tangyjoe
Tangyjoe

Fairleigh Dickinson University.  Uh okay.   Might as well be a poll by the Alberta Crumpnoodle School for Young Ladies.   This is B.S.   Casey Michel should win the Henny Penny award for this blog post.

johnnybench
johnnybench topcommenter

What ever happened to "love it or leave it"?  

waltonS
waltonS

@rgwalt  Do you think having a Drivers License is a right?  Or on the same par as the "right" to owning a gun with no background check?

casey.michel
casey.michel

@Tangyjoe As someone who worked exclusively with electoral polling during the fall of 2012: If you have a problem with FDU's methodology, speak up. If you're simply casting them aside because you're not familiar with their name, it's to your detriment.

adamkomar
adamkomar

@johnnybench That was amended, earmarked and ratified by those who didn't love it. 'Murika.

rgwalt
rgwalt

Driving is a priviledge, not a right, and I admit that freely.  However, the comparison still holds.  And it doesn't change the fact that responsible gun owners shouldn't be held liable for the irresponsibility or crimes of others.

Tangyjoe
Tangyjoe

The surveyed 863 people and you wrote "For those keeping track, that's approximately 75 million Americans who've been sufficiently streamed enough bloodlust and rancor to believe that their liberty has been, or could be, infringed, and that their sawed-off shotguns will somehow, some way, provide sufficient recourse for bringing those liberties back. All within the next few years."

So yeah, I think your article is BS

liquidsix
liquidsix

@waltonS @rgwalt furthermore, even the left has admitted that criminals care less about abiding by laws. Same thing with legalization of marijuana and prohibition. Making something illegal or limiting the rights of the citizenry does nothing but piss people off. Machiavelli himself said "I prefer an armed citizenry to a standing militia".

liquidsix
liquidsix

@waltonS @rgwalt In the 18th century, EVERYONE had muskets, now the govt picks and chooses who can own what. Whether a drivers license is a privilege or a right is not the issue. You don't use a car/truck to defend your family.

rgwalt
rgwalt

2A was intended to guarantee the right of citizens to have access to the same arms available to those who might use arms against them. Don't like it? Then amend the Constitution.

waltonS
waltonS

@rgwalt  Or maybe absolute gun ownership isn't a right, after all.

Maybe musket ownership.

casey.michel
casey.michel

@Tangyjoe Respect the commentary. And FWIW, you were exactly correct earlier - my math was off. Based on the poll, it should be ~40 million registered Republicans who anticipate potential revolution, not 75 million. My mistake.

Tangyjoe
Tangyjoe

See Dewey vs. Truman. But I respect your rational responses and reasonable line of thinking in the comment section here.

casey.michel
casey.michel

@Tangyjoe I mean, you're allowed to believe what you want. And we can quibble about word choice all through the evening. I'll still tend to side with polls over anecdotal evidence, however.

Also, about the sawed-off's: true.

Tangyjoe
Tangyjoe

Walton, I pretty much agree with your description of "mainstream Republican values".  I'm not even remotely arguing that Republicans are "the good guys".  I'm just saying that I strongly disagree that the majority of mainstream repulicans are filled with bloodlust and believe that violent revolution is around the corner. 

abigail33
abigail33

@waltonS @Tangyjoe  that's true....those positions you mention used to be fringe in the Repub party maybe 20-30 years ago. Now they're the norm in the echo chamber

waltonS
waltonS

@Tangyjoe  so where is the mainstream Republican sentiment available? (And btw 'mainstream Republican' now means no abortion under any conditions, absolute gun ownership, no taxes on the 'job-creators', debt is killing us, moochers are killing us etc) that's now what is mainstream in the Republic party

Tangyjoe
Tangyjoe

I object to your hyperbole more than their methodology. I mean really, bloodlust?

And regardless of what the survey says, I  don't believe that "Nearly half of the Republicans in this nation think revolution may be imminent."  

I don't listen to fringe radio personalities or subscribe to conspiracy theory newsletters so maybe that's why I have yet to talk to a single person who calls themself a Republican that believes in violent revolution or that one is "imminent".   And sawed off shotguns are for hillbilly's.

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