Linda Ozmun: College Theater Professor Refuses to See Gay Productions, Sues

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Religious beliefs bar her from seeing gay material, she says.
A former theater and dance professor at Beaumont's Lamar University is suing the school, saying her tenure track was derailed because she refused to attend productions about the "homosexual lifestyle."

Linda Ozmun says her religious beliefs would not allow her to see what the suit calls "an 'artist' named Tim Miller" who "is an openly homosexual man who advocates for normalizing homosexuality and homosexual marriage."

Miller was scheduled to appear at Lamar in 2010 for what the suit describes as "a one-man show...about his homosexual lifestyle using obscene language and sexual gestures."

(Miller has aroused controversy but also earned praise: The New York Times in a review said he was "a charming and wildly energetic storyteller" and our sister paper the Village Voice said he "has a gift for letting one topic open surprising doors onto a multitude of others; his works are as canny and complex as they are charming.")

The suit says Miller's 2010 performance was canceled because of "complaints from the community."

As a result, Lamar students organized a show called Coming Out Collective, which the suit says was "billed as a celebration of homosexuality."

She refused to attend the production; the department chair subsequently gave her an "unacceptable" grade at her annual evaluation. She says she filed a grievance that was ignored.

Then Miller came back to Lamar to perform a show called Glory Box and Ozmun again refused to attend. She says she was threatened with disciplinary action.

Ozmun, who taught at Lamar for four years, is no longer at the school, and is suing for lost wages, damages and reinstatement with a clean record.


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sue jeffers
sue jeffers

she was not fired by the university.  at least not according to the university.

Kevin
Kevin

its kinda odd that when a Christian says that he or she's against a certain act hence gays and lesbianism that they are haters.  but what about when a Christian is being hated for praying or reading the Bible in public.  Now who hates who.

Revpeters
Revpeters

Few if any of these comments are constructive, persuasive arguments, or, frankly, make much sense. One poster, in particular, has a very limited view of Christianity. It is not a simplistic set of beliefs, and to classify it as some sort of system of hatred shows a lack of knowledge in this area. Many of these posts are also written poorly, so that most of the posters here would fail English 101. This site needs an overseer to excise some of these posts.  

Stanley James
Stanley James

Just aws not as bad as the hatred that resulted in the James Byrd dragging death murder in 1999.

And the similar type murder of another black man in MI recently, run over multiple times by a "christian"     Kluxer wannabe

Not surpriisng since the gov - Perry = the sign over his leased hunting grounds   Quote --  "niggerhead ranch"  .

Kilgore Trout
Kilgore Trout

Check out RateMyProfessors.com and look at Michelle Ozmun of Lamar University's dance/theater department. It's the same person, for sure. Here's a sample comment from one student: "You don't even have to pay attention and you're still on the same page as the person with all the notes. You are taught not a single thing and some how she comes up with a full test. Pretty much teaching each other and reading a book. Might as well be online." She's a graduate of Texas Woman's University, which must be the only college on planet earth that has a dance/theater department with no gay faculty.

Alessandra
Alessandra

Non-Discrimination Policy

Lamar University is an equal opportunity, affirmative action educational institution and employer. Students, faculty, and staff members are selected without regard to their race, color, creed, sex, age, handicap or national origin, consistent with the Assurance of Compliance with the Title VI of the Civil Rights Act of 1964; Executive Order 11246 as issued and amended; Title IX of the Education Amendments of 1972, as amended; Section 504 of the Rehabilitation Act of 1973.============What a joke.

They are selected without regard to creed, but then are fired and kicked out of their jobs exactly because of their creed.

And by whom? The people with a destructive homosexuality agenda, who trample on and attack anyone who doesn't submit to it. 

100!
100!

All of your comments are disgusting. Since when has it been ok to voice your opinion as long as it is not a Christian opinion? Since when has been ok to stand up for something as long as its not a Christian something? Anyone can take a philsophy or religion and twist to fit there evil needs. But they can do the same thing with their sexuality. Gays do not have a patent on any art or lifestyle. Its as simple as deciding who you will have sex with. Choosing Christ means sacrificing everything and putting yourself out there for the world to crucify you like they did Christ, for the sake of peace and love. You made a decison one day and so did she. Professor Ozmun is a hero.

Kilgore Trout
Kilgore Trout

I once knew a high school biology teacher who thought evolution was an evil conspiracy hatched by Christian-haters. But a homophobic theater/dance professor might top that. I checked this story out on the Beaumont Enterprise website, and a blogger there says this lady was cited for having "several absences"...I don't know what that means exactly--if it refers to being absent from class or from these performances--but I'm going to assume there's a bit more to this story, as there so often is when wackjobs start raising heck about supposed attacks on their religious liberty.

100!
100!

A university professor does not want to renounce her belief system and you somehow compare her action to criminal murder? Your hatred towards those who do not agree with you is making you delirious. A Christian will tolerate your presence and respect your life but that does not entitle you to threatening any one's religous freedom. Christian's founded this nation after fleeing years of persecution throughout Europe and they are still killing Christians around the world right now. And you expect one professor to back down over an amateur drama?

Christians are not perfect but we're not scared to admit it. We are inadequate on our own and we need a teacher. Making mistakes in life is going to be expected. But thats no reason to give up. We are taught to forgive people for their mistakes as we all are forgiven but we should never encourage them.

The Bible says there is no one good not even one. ALL fall short and thats why he sent the Son (Romans 3:23). Without Him we don't know what true goodness or true love looks like.

Anse
Anse

Look at Ratemyprofessors.com, check Michelle Ozmun of Lamar University; it's the same person. The comments are generally terrible enough to make the lone positive review questionable.

But here's what I reckon probably happened; allow a bit of conjecture, if you will. Ozmun, based on these student reviews, is most likely a very unlikeable, unapproachable, and generally miserable person to hang around. Since she's a Christian with a chip on her shoulder (as so many of them are these days) and doesn't mind saying so, she's probably very unhappy with her chosen subject area. How she gets into an art form that has been a haven for The Gays forever is a curious thing, and she probably has to confront them on a daily basis, projecting her personal misery on colleagues and students alike.

My guess is her superiors gave her an ultimatum as a way to get her off the faculty because nobody could stand her. Her religious views probably don't matter all that much, or wouldn't, if she wouldn't cite them at every single opportunity to make somebody else miserable.

Stanley James
Stanley James

 Just anther victimizer claiming to be the victim.

time the UNiversity adds  "sexual orientation" to their equal opportunity  clause.

TX - the armpit of America -  Home of the KLuxers who have a new victim group.

Bill
Bill

 Ah, the homosexual agenda.  What exactly might that be? 

Stanley James
Stanley James

 Just another fool  claiming to be the victim when they are the victimizer.

Is there anythign we can do like the British did some centuries ago - they sent the criminals to a far far away place - Australia.

where eventually they reformed.

H_e_x
H_e_x

I take it you gave all your possessions to the poor to preach the good word. I mean, you don't want to be called a hypocritical blowhard, do you?

itsdanilove
itsdanilove

Er, yeah.  This lady sounds like she was just chock-full of peace and love.

Stanley James
Stanley James

 Religious liberty gave us eg - the catholics vs the xtians killing each other in ireland til relatively recently

9-11

the holocaust of the Jews, because the catholic church hated them because they wouldnt convert. Laying the foundations for WWII as well

Hitler was a catholic, born and baptised in Austria in 1888.  You can go look all over the web, andnot  find him EXcommunciated , at least explciitly

Because to excomm him would connect the dots - re the churhc, the holocaust and WWII and 55 million deaths.

BTW the Pope is similar - google  "Pope EXcommunicated Bishop Williamson  "  Who is a holocaust denier.

Bennedict was born in 1928 and grew up under the nazis.

He has also called gay marriage, and by inference gays, as the threat of the end of humanity.

I guess he got that watching not only Jews, but germany's gays being sent to the death camps.

Katy
Katy

Sounds like the one about the pharmacist who was a practicing Christian Scientist. He wouldn't fill ANY prescriptions due to his religious beliefs.

(Granted, that has the advantage of not being true...)

SherryLevine
SherryLevine

 I'm sure you were just fine having the teachers who were conservative haters.

The only thing I agree with is that there must be more to this story. And I would not be surprised if the haters were not the conservative ones.

SherryLevine
SherryLevine

 A lot of projecting and conjecturing there. There's three comments for 2011 on Ratemyprofessors.com, . Three. And from disgruntled students. Who knows? You think you do, I think you don't. Is she nice, is she not nice? I don't know her, but I do see a lot of people who hate her or come close to it just because she is a Christian. All  your conjecturing is nothing but imagining what a horrible person she MUST be.

And how dare she get into an art form that hates people with a wholesome mind about sexuality and personal relationships, you say! She must be attacked and expelled, if she doesn't follow your homosexuality agenda. No place for diversity or tolerance in your universities, obviously.

"My guess is her superiors gave her an ultimatum as a way to get her off the faculty because nobody could stand her. Her religious views probably don't matter all that much,"

Perhaps, but why then say she must be obliged to go see some  homosexuality show with a destructive homosexuality agenda?

If she had other professional faults, no need for her superiors to do or say this.

I totally agree that there must be more to this story, because this article is very short. I just think the story that has not yet been told might not put your camp in such a good light. 

Stanley James
Stanley James

 Of course its being treated as equals in our society. Not that some xtians can even conceive of it.

Brainwasheed as they are from birth by the same churches / culture that justified slavery as per the bible, and gave us the KKK and segregation

And now hate gays, and gay marriage -  What btw is interesting is that in a multi way race, the gay mayor of houston was recently re-elected.

you can bet that the haters leaders are fumning and sending their brainwashed people to this blog.

CRETINS

Alessandra
Alessandra

The homosexual agenda is the political and cultural movement to normalize homosexuality in every aspect of society, by systematically lying about its etiology and consequences, and to criminalize any questioning, differing viewpoints, objections of said homosexual agenda.

The homosexual agenda (ridiculously called "gay rights movement" and other such euphemistic terms) is part of a larger liberal agenda regarding sexuality and personal behaviors (including the endorsement of promiscuity, hook-ups, perverse and perverted attitudes and behaviors related to sex, porn, adultery, abortion, destruction of traditional marriage, STD epidemics, etc.).

The homosexual agenda is largely responsible for irresponsible and corrupt research and academic production regarding homosexuality.

Do not confuse the term "(homo)sexuality" with "(homo) sexual orientation. They are not the same.

Homosexuality is about sexual attitudes, values, attractions, repulsions, concepts and interpretations about sexuality, power and domination or subjection dynamics relating to the sexual other, affection or objectification of the sexual other, admiration or disrespect related to the sexual object, conscious and unconscious feelings related to self or other which shapes or deforms relation and sexual feelings towards other, obsessions and distortions, projections, fantasies, dysfunctions, traumas, impacts from social conditioning, problems with masculinity or femininity, problems with personal history and fundamental caretakers, etc. that will result in the sexualization of someone of the same sex and a hindering of the normal sexualization of someone of the opposite sex.   Society needs to be concerned about homosexuality, not homosexual orientation. Homosexual attraction or desire is only a mere product of a myriad configurations of these aforementioned dysfunctional psycho-social dynamics.

goldenrushapple
goldenrushapple

Fallacy and you know it. Disagreeing with homosexuality or not choosing to see a production about it isn't rejecting peace and love. It's just disagreeing with it.

Alessandra
Alessandra

 "Er, yeah.  This lady sounds like she was just chock-full of peace and love."

Yes, she does sound like a nice person.

Not to a perverse and perverted individual, though.

The more people think like slime, the more they hate wholesome individuals and the more they must vilify them.

Stanley James
Stanley James

 these xtians confuse 4 letter words.  Love  and hate.

Bet their name is already on satans list for the trap door in front of the pearly gates.

or his woman is just another self hating gay in denial.   Reminds me of minister ted haggard

Stanley James
Stanley James

 we've also had that kind of problem for real  - if they cant get with the program, they should go get a job where the bible doesn't interfer.

Sorting trash at a recycling center at the dump would be fine. UNtil the anything but xtian christians add more poo to the bible to make it illegal under gods' laws.

those people bought up bible publishing companies to change the bibles to fit their various hatreds.

interesting how their god hates homosexuality.  As it hated inter racial marriage,  blacks marrying, etc etc.

Stanley James
Stanley James

 Interesting how a jewish person   -  LEVINE-   sides with the haters of the same people who the nazis ALSO sent to the dEath camps.

 

Kilgore Trout
Kilgore Trout

A biology teacher that thinks evolution is a lie is about the same as a math teacher that thinks 2+2=5. There's a point where one's personal views run up against basic competence. Evolution is the ruling paradigm of the life sciences, and anybody that disputes it better bring bigger guns than the book of Genesis.

100!
100!

I'm sorry but you cannot compare gay rights to the civil rights movement nor to the slavery and trade of millions of African-Americans. When were gays bought and sold by the millions? When did millions of them die in transport? When where millions of families and children torn apart and murdered?

If it were not for the KKK who would you point the finger at? One evil does not justify another.

100!
100!

We are ALL born sinners with the capacity to be gay or fornicators, liars, cheaters, thiefs, murderers, and many other things. The difference is one decision away.

Unharden your heart.

100!
100!

FYI. Hitler was an atheist.

H_e_x
H_e_x

Obvious troll is obvious. I get it, you hate everyone who is different form you. I hope someday you realize your bigoted ways and wise the fuck up, because you are batshit insane. God damn, what is this a klan rally or something?

H_e_x
H_e_x

The hell you talking about? God damn, you must really hate gay people. My evidence? You saying that no one is born gay. Ask any gay person about that, they might might confirm it.

SherryLevine
SherryLevine

 James Rennie, Frank Lombard, and Eve Ensler are all your kind of people. They are homosexual monsters.

But they don't bother you, do they? Nor do the millions of other violent homosexuals and bisexuals in society. But look at how you viciously attack conservatives.

So yes, you are very hateful.

And I hope you get a taste of how futile it is for you to go on a "hater" name-calling spree every time you come across someone who doesn't agree with your narrow-minded "gay" views.

Your comments here don't rise above the level of a middle schooler with a penchant for spitting out nasty labels at other people. You call others "haters," they will call you a "hater." Hopefully one day, you will you evolve past it. 

SherryLevine
SherryLevine

 HEX: You do understand hating someone simply because they are gay is bigoted?=========First of all, there is no such thing as "gay." Everyone is born a heterosexual and some people develop a homosexuality problem.

Second, you do understand that neither Osmun nor anyone else in this thread hates homosexuals, don't you?

I wonder if you even know what the word "hatred" means. I don't think you do. But it's clear you think you can be a hateful bigot towards any group in society.

H_e_x
H_e_x

You do understand hating someone simply because they are gay is bigoted? How is it not? Should we go back to the good old days when gays were put to death?I would also like to know what you base your hatred on homosexuals on, if it is not religion. According to your blog, you do tie religion to anti-gay bigotry. And for the love of bacon, don't call someone a hater like we are in middle school. Yes, I am a hater, not you, someone who blindly hates gay. I am the real intolerant bigot got pointing out your own intolerance. The Klan aren't racist, it's all those minorities they kill that are racist for having the gall to point out their hatred. Westboro Baptist aren't bigots, it's all the people who call out their bigotry that are the intolerant ones. I could go on, but I doubt there is anything short of an immediate family member coming out that will change your hateful attitudes against homosexuals.

Katy
Katy

OK, thank you for that contribution to the discussion.

I will take it under advisement. 

Alessandra
Alessandra

  I was reacting (sort of in kneejerk fashion) to your non sequitur ad hominem attack on homosexuals.=============

Katy's favorite lie that anyone was making ad hominem attacks on homosexuals.

She can lie but no one can point out she's lying -- and then she calls other people trolls!

Alessandra
Alessandra

 And then we can give all the kids to homosexual monsters like Frank Lombard and James Rennie -- they aren't Christians after all -- and seem to have a lot of affinities with Stanley James!

Alessandra
Alessandra

to Katy - Why should anyone restrain from pointing out that you are effectively lying and being a complete hypocrite?

I don't see you thinking you have to restrain yourself from lying and giving a show of hypocrisy.

And you claim that you try to be constructive while lying and being a hypocrite?

That is the level of self-awareness of someone with a homosexuality agenda: zero.

Alessandrareflections
Alessandrareflections

  Stanley James   the mroe we beat on these anything but xtian haters, the worse they get.

One of htese days they will be calling for death camps for gays. Just like hitler did=================

Another bigoted hater! The more we expose how bigoted and hating these homosexual agenda people are, they more they become vicious and vile.

It's ad homs against conservatives in every single comment. You only thrive on hating people. One of these days you will be calling for death camps for social conservatives, just like Hitler did.

And Frank Lombard, James Rennie and Ernst Rohm were all your kind of people.

Not that an ignorant bigot like yourself has a problem with that, of course!

Alessandrareflections
Alessandrareflections

  H_e_x I guess I have a hard time understanding bigots.

================That explains why you have such a hard time understanding yourself.

An ignorant bigot like you doesn't do too well in the understanding department. Continue with your name-calling and and your hating -- I see that your mind is so small, you refuse to see that I haven't talked about Jesus here. You're the only one talking about Jesus here.

But a bigot like yourself thrives on lies.

"I get it, you have to hate someone because Jesus said so."

I get it, you have to lie about how much YOU are a hater.

If I had a dollar for every time a hating bigot like yourself called other people names on the Internet, I'd be a billionaire.

Stanley James
Stanley James

 the mroe we beat on these anything but xtian haters, the worse they get.

One of htese days they will be calling for death camps for gays. Just like hitler did

Actually if you go digging on th net you will find that in Uganda, with american hateful xtian influence, mixed with Edi Amins legacy of hateful  Islam

that excactly what some American xtians are doing. / encouraging

Calling for hanging of gays, and even  long jail sentences for anyone who, in true KGB fashion, doesnt turn in gays to the govt.

Welcome to XTianity  - Islam by a different name.  With a good dose of the nazis mixed in.

Stanley James
Stanley James

 First lets take away the kids from ALL single mothers.  (or fathers), since xtians claim it takes a mother and a father to raise chidlren.

Next lets outlaw divorce.

We simply have to out and throw the haters out of our society.  iran or saudi with their bibles would be a better fit.

Jesus is turnign over in his grave about some xtians. and what is simply hate

Stanley James
Stanley James

 web site -

http://www.ranker.com/list/top...  

Reker is at the top of the list

BTw further down is Minister Ted Haggard, who ranted against gays and gay marriage.

Got outed by his boyfiiend.  got xtian cured and got caught again.

Haggard now works to support gay marriage. btw.

Stanley James
Stanley James

 that s directly out of the hate group FRC , founded by one George Rekers.  Who was also the head of NARTH, the so called group that claims to fix gays.

Rekers has been watched for some years. The truth is in the following websie but it basically is that he rented a college boy to be his "sex buddie from rentboy  dot com.

He got caught / outed by the college boy.

As ussual the more they protest gays, the more they are just self hating gays in denial.

H_e_x
H_e_x

I guess I have a hard time understanding bigots. I get it, you have to hate someone because Jesus said so. If I had a million dollars for every time Jesus mentioned homosexuality, why, I think I'd have exactly no money whatsoever.But continue commenting and blogging about "Nazi Homosexuals." Mike Godwin would be proud.

Katy
Katy

Wait... Are you the same person as Alessandra?

I don't recall having entered a conversation with "SherryLevine"...

I am willing to, of course but only if you can restrain yourself from labels like "liar", "hypocrite", or statements about whether I have anything to say or not.

Seriously. Even when talking to someone I know is never going to agree with me, I TRY (with varying degrees of success) to be constructive, and your comment is surprisingly insulting for someone who I've never interacted with before.

Are you wishing to enter a discussion of the topic or can I expect that the next comments would be full of name-calling and insults as well? If you are looking for a troll fight (a perfectly respectable pastime, by the way), then please scroll down to another user on this site, who statistically speaking is bound to be more willing to engage in that sort of thing.

Just let me know. Thanks.

SherryLevine
SherryLevine

Katy: But in the comment I responded to, it looked to me as though you were railing generally against the Big Gay Agenda. What I reacted to had nothing to do with Ms. Ozmun but rather your series of wild claims that because of my genitals vis a vis my wife's everything else about my life and family must necessarily be deformed and dysfunctional. ================

Can you be a little more of a hypocrite? I guess not.

Everything you have said above promotes a homosexuality agenda. You don't have to be a professional activist to enforce, endorse, and promote a homosexuality agenda, in case that's news to you.

"your series of wild claims that because of my genitals vis a vis my wife's everything else about my life and family must necessarily be deformed and dysfunctional. "

If you care to ever read what I wrote, you will see that nowhere do I talk about "everything else about your life and family"

Please try not to lie so much. I know you are so used to it that you just can't be honest in your comments, but it drags down the discussion level. The same applies to  your   excuses for being ignorant and uncivil.

No one was making ad hominem attacks on homosexuals either. 

I guess if you don't make up all this nonsense, you have nothing worthwhile to say here or anywhere else.

Katy
Katy

Whoa! Lots of information here. Let me have a look.

First, I'd like to point out that I didn't actually make any reference in my comment to Ms. Ozmun's claim or its merits. This is because your comment to which I was responding did not make reference to the article or Ms. Ozmun's specific claims. 

I don't know enough from the article - without more information - to even hazard a guess as to whether she might have a decent claim for discrimination based on her faith or some other grounds. 

Based only on the information available, her claim of failure to gain tenure (it doesn't say she was fired) seems to be an adverse effect on her employment that was unjustified.

But in the comment I responded to, it looked to me as though you were railing generally against the Big Gay Agenda. What I reacted to had nothing to do with Ms. Ozmun but rather your series of wild claims that because of my genitals vis a vis my wife's everything else about my life and family must necessarily be deformed and dysfunctional. 

Folks who want to color everything about ME based on my sex life are vastly overestimating my sex life. That goes for most folks I know, who are just trying to get by like everyone else, regardless of this one sphere of their lives.

I'm not a gay activist. I am legally married to a woman and have kids and the whole bit - what would be called a "normal" life by most - and that appears to be all if takes to get me labeled a gay activist promoting a gay agenda. 

So maybe you thought the two of us were having a debate we didn't have. I was reacting (sort of in kneejerk fashion) to your non sequitur ad hominem attack on homosexuals.

Alessandra
Alessandra

 It's all right if a full paragraph goes right over your head. I think it would be best if you stuck to sound bites and little words.

Alessandra
Alessandra

 The question is where in the Constitution does it say it's okay for people with your homosexual problem to discriminate and fire anyone who doesn't agree with the mountain of misinformation you have swimming in your head?

You're right: you are scary.

Especially concerning what a hypocrite you are. Who's the person losing their jobs here?

It's not you.

Where does it say in the Constitution that people who don't have your homosexuality agenda cannot have jobs?

I guess that Gay breakfast you like so much doesn't allow you to distinguish the difference between porn and the Constitution--you've got the two confused. You don't even know what the Constitution say, much less want to acknowledge other people's rights.

Oh, and "three kids" - none of which were conceived wihin a loving man-woman relationship because it does take a man and a woman, that is heterosexuality to conceive children, in case you are oblivious to this fact as well. Too much koolaid in your breakfast seems to have this effect causing a severe  oblivion to reality in your mind.

H_e_x
H_e_x

Rarely has so much said meant so little.

Katy
Katy

Right on!

I wrote about the gay agenda on my blog a few weeks back. I'm gay, but I admitted it straight up: http://www.lesbiansinmysoup.co...

The part where I put Gay Breakfast on my family's agenda for the day is probably the scariest.

The consequences you mention here are scary, too. My wife and I have a frightening home with three kids, plus a house, jobs, etc.

It's really, really scary, and we're right there, ramming it down everyone's throats as though Leviticus didn't warn us about the impact of gay driving and gay sleeping and gay brushing of teeth.

I mean, where in the Constitution does it say it's okay for gays to brush their teeth? 

100!
100!

Since you are antagonizing me, does that make you a self-hating Christian in denial? How does that hypothesis work? There are probably more Christians in the closet than there are gays right now because of all of your whining. I'm just saying though...

Alessandra
Alessandra

 The number of priests and other clergy persecuted by the Nazis largely equals and probably exceeds the number of homosexuals they sent to the camps.

For example, the Polish Roman Catholic hierarchy was violently attacked by the Nazis and saw thousands of its clerics sent to concentration camps or simply killed.Surely, homosexuality agenda fanatics like Stanley James -- who hates Christians -- has a lot more in common with the Nazis than he is ready to admit!

Alessandra
Alessandra

 The number of homosexuals sent to camps is absolutely, ridiculously small compared to the total estimated number of homosexuals in all Nazi dominated countries. Furthermore, many were simply imprisoned for some time, and let go; it is clear they were not there to be exterminated. The Nazis had no big enthusiasm for exterminating homosexuals as they did for Jews, and there is plenty available historical research showing that the motive for sending a considerable number of these homosexuals to the camps was because they were political enemies of the Nazis. The homosexual charge just made it expedient. 

Did Hitler choose a Jew to be the head of his vicious SA? A Gypsy? No way. He chose a homosexual, who jumped up at the opportunity, because they had been such good friends for such a long time. Let’s not forget that Rohm was a fanatical homosexual like so many current liberals.

Before throwing out cheap shots as the one by Stanley above, we need to highlight just how many homosexuals were in existence among the Nazis and how many people they terrorized, murdered, raped, and tortured.

And Hitler just loved his homosexual pal Rohm to pieces. So who has more in common with the Nazis after all?

Certainly Stanley adores Ernst Rohm!

Alessandra
Alessandra

 By all accounts, Hitler had quite a perverse sexuality mind himself, and he was very, very cozy with people with a homosexual problem. So much so, that perhaps what we can call his best friend for years, the immensely powerful SA chief Enrst Rohm, was a virulent homosexual zealot.

Hitler had known Rohm was a homosexual for a long time, along with several other Nazi men and other Hitler supporters. It was through Hitler’s personal invitation that Rohm got the top spot at the SA. Remember those savage, brutal Nazis (several of whom were homosexuals) with boots and brown shirts? The SA was a political army that protected the party leadership, battled opponents such as the Communist Red Front and terrorized Jews.

The reason for the elimination of Rohm in 1934 has nothing to do with Hitler being opposed to homosexuality. It has  to do with Rohm’s growing power which increasingly loomed as a serious threat to take over even Hitler’s power, putting Rohm in a direct collision course with other top Nazis, such as Goring, Gobbels, and Himmler.

As another example of the monstrosity of homosexual Nazis in Germany, the first Nazi concentration camp was built under the command of Rohm. Yet such information is usually lied about or omitted in current discourses about homosexuals in Germany, which always present only one narrow narrative of the ones sent to the camps.

Alessandra
Alessandra

 "The only question is if their personal values are ignorance, superstiion or hate."

James certainly has  a lot of experience having these personal values!

Alessandra
Alessandra

 a teacher who thinks that homosexuality is in-born is about the same as a teacher who thinks 2+2 =5

Stanley James
Stanley James

 The only question is if their personal values are ignorance, superstiion or hate.

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