Ray Hill's Arrest Video Tells Different Story Than What Cops Say

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Don't Get in the Way of Our Titty Bar Raids, Yo!

Security camera footage taken during a raid at the Treasures strip club shows a Houston Police Department officer shoving gay activist Ray Hill in the chest before other officers surround the 71-year-old, handcuff him and escort him from the premises.

The video of the December 8 incident, which Hill showed to Hair Balls Monday, does not align with court papers claiming that Hill pushed the officer, resulting in Hill's misdemeanor charge of interfering with the duties of a public servant.

Hill's attorney, Stanley Schneider, said he gave a copy of the video to the Harris County District Attorney's Office Monday.

"What the three officers describe in their offense report clearly did not occur on the video," Schneider said.

Hill, who had for decades fought against police harassment of gays and gay clubs and who now brings that same zeal toward, um, titty bars, said he had gone to Treasures the night of December 8 after he received a call about the raid.

The video (which doesn't have sound) shows Hill, who has a prosthetic leg, talking to, or attempting to talk to, an officer holding court in Treasures' foyer, as other officers, patrons and dancers walk in and out of view. Hill's hands are in his pockets, and after about 16 seconds, the officer shoves Hill toward a wall, knocking him off balance. As two other officers swoop in, Hill puts his palm against one of the officers' chest -- a move Hill says he made because he was knocked off balance and was afraid he'd fall down.

To Hair Balls, it looks like another one of those instances where someone forgot to remind police officers that cameras are ubiquitous, and it's not like the halcyon days when you could gaffle someone and not wind up on YouTube. Not that this incident rivals the Chad Holley or Patti LaBelle fiascos, but the point is sort of the same.

Hill told us that he'd heard about the planned raids a few days before they happened and that he informed several high-ranking HPD officers that he planned on showing up and, if necessary, being arrested, so maybe this was just HPD's way of granting his Christmas wish.

But we think if HPD really wanted to piss Hill off, they would have found some way not to shove a 71-year-old, one-legged man standing there with his hands in his pockets. But then again, we don't know how stressful it must be to raid a titty bar, where illegal blowjobs may have been doled out left and right just moments before -- your adrenaline must really be pumping. Your life is on the line. Then some jerk-off senior citizen gay activist comes up to you and starts talking? At that point, we guess, it's either him or you...


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Honest Citizen
Honest Citizen

 Arrest video is here....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...

I wonder what the names of those three cops are?  Do you suppose that they can ever give unimpeachable testimony in a court of law in Houston ever again after the three of them filled that false stuff on the arrest report???

Disoinferno
Disoinferno

Ray Hill is a joke.  What kind of loser shows up looking to get arrested!!  Get a life old man.  Typical liberal though.

Jo
Jo

The city's 100,000.00 cap on lawsuits needs to change.  My medical bills are more than 100,000.00 and I was not being arrested or questioned about anything when a bailiff lost his cool.

DreadedTruth
DreadedTruth

More police officers are convicted of child sex crimes than all other professions combined. It's law enforcement's "dirty little secret", and one we are committed to exposing. Police officers use their positions of trust to violate our children. Their victims are threatened with physical harm and told no one will believe their word over that of a police officer. Please visit our facebook pages for more information on how you can help end this silent epidemic that destroys the lives of thousands of innocent children each and every year. http://www.facebook.com/pages/...

Amused
Amused

HPD was forewarned Ray Hill would catch the officers physically bullying him as a disabled senior citizens and the officers went right ahead and got caught doing so on video when they raided Treasures and arrested one woman stripper -- and Ray Hill. What a waste of taxpayer's money. What a show of dunderheadism by the HPD.

FTP!!
FTP!!

The police have ruined any credibility they ever had with me, guess its just a matter of time before they overstep the line for the last time...

Court Rand
Court Rand

Good reporting!  Police beware - little brother is watching you too...

jeffersontom43
jeffersontom43

What a surprise...The cops lied...No wonder cops don't like people taking videos of arrests..

elgallodemontrose
elgallodemontrose

Not mine, I just copied it from chron.com but I think it's probably the best comment on this subject."Police are most effective at getting othewise good people who commit minor transgressions or are doing nothing wrong, but not as much when it comes to real criminals."

Obnoxious Rabble-Rouser
Obnoxious Rabble-Rouser

He went down there to be obnoxious and to get arrested. Publicity stunt accomplished.

Wyatt
Wyatt

You shove a cop, you face serious charges. A cop shoves you for no reason, and nothing's going to happen to him or her. What a world.

YourPublicationIsAJoke
YourPublicationIsAJoke

Should have took his hands out of his pockets. All it takes is the muscles aligning your index finger in order to be a threat. I'm guessing the 71 year old gay amputee could still perform this action.

Keep up the good work, how about next week you post about the HPD officer that revived a 4 month old inside the Galleria 2 nights ago, instead of always trying to focus on the negative...

But I guess that doesn't sell "web hits", does it?

MadMac
MadMac

More like the little guy that pays the taxes to support these hyenas.

Writer for a Free Fishwrap
Writer for a Free Fishwrap

Yep. All of the real criminals in our jails and prisons all turned themselves in. They weren't arrested by the police. No way.

pwin
pwin

And did you ever see the video or read the story about Hill's big scene on thesteps of city hall protesting the passage of Proposition 8 in California?  Notin Texas mind you, but in California.  He stood on the steps and repeatedlyshouted "moth........kers" in the faces of the police.  That's pretty strong.But instead of arresting him the police called an ambulance to take him tothe hospital for treatment of his blood pressure.  They said they didn't wantto be responsible for watching him have a heart attack or a stroke whilestanding by and doing nothing.  Whether that was or wasn't the completetruth, it was still a unique way of handling him. But how many people ofyour personal acquaintance would stand there and let this guy screamthis word into their face and do absolutely nothing.  That's Hill's style,and I strong suspect he said something to the officers at Treasuresthat he shouldn't have said that might have ticked off an officer. 

The question still remains :  why did he go there in the first place?  Todo what?  He later boasted he went there to get arrested.  That's Hill'sstyle.  That's what he does.  That's what he always does.  I have avery clear recolletion of his confrontational style on the campus of theU of H.  Never in my entire life have I ever rooted for the Clampitts nordo I intend to start now.  Ray Hill roots for the Clampitts.   He roots,toots, and yells for more.  Can you imagine what the quality of ourlives would be if everyone did that and got away with it?  The entirecountry would sink into anarchy.  I can't imagine any reasonableperson welcoming that much less encouraging it. 

Craig Malisow
Craig Malisow

Exactly. And do you know how the HPD could have avoided the whole publicity stunt? By not shoving and then arresting him. Then there wouldn't have been a story. What's easier -- ignoring a media-savvy old dude who's actually not causing any harm, or going out of your way to push him around and arrest him -- on videotape, mind you? 

MadMac
MadMac

More like you shove a cop and he shoots you 39 times, in the back, after reloading. And the Grand Jury no-bills him because, you know, he feared for his life and stuff.

Miranda Shmiranda
Miranda Shmiranda

You are obviously a cop with a tiny dick, which is why you became a cop.

squinney
squinney

You must have never had to personally deal with HPD or the justice system.  HPD&HarrisCountyCourtsIsAJoke.  They can fuck your life up for no reason at all if they choose to.

Anse
Anse

If this publication is a joke, why in the heck are you reading it? But I'm sure they appreciate the "web hit."

Sorry to butt in, Mr. Malisow.

Craig Malisow
Craig Malisow

Hi YPIAJ -- I'd address you by your name, but you didn't provide it. One thing I've never understood is the "focus on the negative" statement. Should the public, or any news organization, explicitly ignore any allegation of wrongdoing...or just allegations of wrongdoing by public servants? 

For example, should we not write about murder cases? Because murder is so totally not positive. In fact, it can be a downright drag. Same with rape, disease, racism, and securities fraud. Should we not report on those? Or perhaps there should be some sort of positive:negative ratio -- i.e., for every story about rape, there must be a story about a puppy saving a busload of orphans from falling over a cliff. Or what about stories of prosecutorial misconduct and DNA evidence exonerating wrongly convicted people? That's kinda negative, because it shows that some officers of the court are, like, all dishonest and stuff. What a buzzkill. Could you please provide a little more guidance on how you think the reporting of current events should be shaped and presented? That'd be an enormous help. Thanks,Craig

MadMac
MadMac

Real criminals? You mean the ones we have to shell out big bucks to for wrongful prosecutions? Or the ones we find might have been innocent AFTER they were executed? Or do you mean the cops that are busted for corruption, BY THE FEDS?

Obnoxious Rabble-Rouser
Obnoxious Rabble-Rouser

Not causing any harm? I guess that is subjective. As far as "pushing him around". I haven't seen the tape so I guess I'll have to take your word for it for the time being.Now on the arrest, you do realize interfering with a police investigation/raid is against the law. So is disobeying an officers' commands, like it or not.

MadMac
MadMac

So, since I didn't see former HPD Drunk, Alex Gonzalex kill Ida Lee Delany, he didn't do it. That would mean former HPD Assasin Scott Tschirhart didn't kill Byron Gillum, either. You know, 'cause I didn't see it. You must be on every Houston Grand Jury that hears HPD murder cases, since all of these criminals keep walking away from murder charges.

MadMac
MadMac

My old man was a three-time-convicted felon on life probation. Every week, two HPD goons would show up at his shop and he'd hand over an envelope with no less than five bills. Business is good? Five bills. Business is bad? Five bills. You sold stolen car parts to make the five bills? Better throw in six inspection stickers with the five bills. Otherwise, we call your PO and you're back in the Walls Unit.

We had to take up a collection to bury my old man but he was paid up with HPD, that's for sure.   

Obnoxious Rabble-Rouser
Obnoxious Rabble-Rouser

Well apparently we do have the right to harrass cops while they do their jobs. We have the right to shout in their faces and call them obscenities. Cherish this right. Oh brother.

MadMac
MadMac

Oh, so we have rights as long as we don't use them? Or intending to get arrested as a form of protest, (Means, King, Gandhi, etc) means you get cuffed around? The leap in logic leads to folks floating down the bayou in handcuffs, a la Joe Torres. I don't want anymore bridges named after anymore HPD murder victims. Just saying.

The point I'm trying to make is our rights are intended to protect us from facism. Especially, our right are intended to protect us when we're not the powerful/popular/prefereable. 

I'm not a Ray Hill fan but I support his right to question authority as I insist on the right, myself.  

ray2hill
ray2hill

Try reading 107 S Ct 2502 (Houston V Hill 1987)

Obnoxious Rabble-Rouser
Obnoxious Rabble-Rouser

You also might be considered interfering if you purposely drive to a strip club with the sole purpose of interfering as well.

MadMac
MadMac

In 1997 a guy made an illegal U-turn infront of me at a construction site. The cop responding to the accident refused to ticket the guy or even compel him to produce license and insurance info. When I questioned procedure and cited legal code, the cop threatened me with arrest for "interfering with a police investigation."

As I walked away, (younger/more gullible then) I heard this push-cart apple "investigating" a new roof for his barn from the construction worker that caused the accident.

So, if you're at the wrong place/time/race/gender/broke you might be "considered" interfering with a "police investigation." Keep that in mind, Obnoxious. HPD would love you. 

sequiin
sequiin

I knew ALOT about some of the "goings on" within the dept.  Not just about him.....but about the many others I knew through him and the many he spoke of.  Quite a large percent to persuade me of my perception of the dept as a whole.

squinney
squinney

I dated and lived with a police officer for 4 years.....believe me, they DO break the law.....somtimes in a BIG way.  I can say from experience that MOST do NOT practice what they preach.

MadMac
MadMac

I've noticed you do that all the time. With a certain group of people anyway. Pot-kettle-black?

MadMac
MadMac

I've watched these gangsters abuse their authority on everything from drug trafficing to relationship issues to demanding discounts at comic book shops.

Part of this is our fault. This country (and boy howdie this state) puts them on a pedestal along with doctors and lawyers. In other countries, cops are treated like the plumber, electrician, or waiter. Cops aren't revered in England, France or Germany. They have a job that they chose and they're kinda expect them to be honest about it oh, and if it's not too much trouble, don't assault/murder the civilians.  

Writer for a Free Fishwrap
Writer for a Free Fishwrap

I didn't say he didn't do it. I'm questioning Wyatt stating Hill got shoved as fact even though he hasn't even seen the video.

 Here's a tip you should obviously know by now: Don't go making claims about something you know nothing about...i.e. hearsay.

MadMac
MadMac

Succinct. Like your logic.

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