Texas Judge William Adams Allegedly Beating Daughter: Horrifying Video (UPDATED)

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The Internet is blowing up with a video allegedly posted by the daughter of an Aransas County judge that she says shows him beating her.

Someone who says she is the daughter of Judge William Adams posted the 2004 video only recently. The hard-to-take clip shows a man whipping her with a belt because she was downloading music from the net.

"Bend over the fucking bed!!" he screams as he belts her while she tries to squirm away. At another point he threatens to hit her "in your fucking face."

At another point a woman, who the poster says is her mother, comes in and tells her to bend over "like a 16-year-old and take it."

It's all very disturbing, so think hard about whether you want to watch it.

There is no actual proof the judge is the man in the video, but Internet sleuths and people who say they know the family say it is.

The statement from the daughter attached to the video:

2004: Aransas County Court-At-Law Judge William Adams took a belt to his own teenage daughter as punishment for using the internet to acquire music and games that were unavailable for legal purchase at the time. She has had ataxic cerebral palsy from birth that led her to a passion for technology, which was strictly forbidden by her father's backwards views. The judge's wife was emotionally abused herself and was severely manipulated into assisting the beating and should not be blamed for any content in this video. The judge's wife has since left the marriage due to the abuse, which continues to this day, and has sincerely apologized and repented for her part and for allowing such a thing, long before this video was even revealed to exist. Judge William Adams is not fit to be anywhere near the law system if he can't even exercise fit judgement as a parent himself. Do not allow this man to ever be re-elected again. His "judgement" is a giant farce. Signed, Hillary Adams, his daughter.

As often happens in these viral-video cases, people have been flooding the Aransas County courthouse with calls. A Facebook page against his re-election has been created, too.

Update: Aransas County Judge Burt Mills has posted this statement online:

Judge Burt Mills has today announced that Aransas County is aware of the video posted on YouTube regarding County Court-at-Law Judge William Adams, and the matter is now under review by the Police Department. Please refrain from communication with County offices or the Sheriff's Department on this matter until the review has been completed. Calls, emails, and faxes only create disruptions for other ongoing county business. The public's cooperation would be most appreciated.

And Adams has spopken with a Corpus Christi TV station:

ROCKPORT - Aransas County Court at Law Judge William Adams has spoken to our Andy Liscano about a video the judge's daughter posted on Youtube showing a beating in 2004.

Judge Adams told us, "It happened years ago.. I apologized."

When asked if he thought the conduct in the video was excessive, Judge Adams said, "It's not as bad as it looks on tape."

Judge Adams also informed us he has already contacted the Judicial Review in Austin and "more will come out" during the investigation.

Update: The daughter and the mother appeared on Today; we also have a clip of Adams; terse interview with a TV reporter.

Update: A new official statement from Adams:

"Just prior to the YouTube upload, a concerned father shared with his 23-year-old daughter that he was unwilling to continue to work hard and be her primary source of financial support, if she was going to simply `drop out,' and strive to achieve no more in life than to work part time at a video game store," Adams' statement said. "Hillary warned her father if he reduced her financial support, and took away her Mercedes automobile, which her father had provided, he would live to regret it."


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Virgo1
Virgo1

Fundamentalist Christians.  Hmmmm.  I bet Jesus is real proud of you, them thar folks....they are about as Christian as the Sanhedrin.............

bulldog1973
bulldog1973

if i ever see u in  the streets ill beat your ass. its all ways easy to beat on a kid. come try it me bitch. I can't stand people like you. The united states needs to ban this kind of punishment to our kids. they don't even to that kind of punishment in our jails or prison.

Guest
Guest

There is a clear line between discipline and abuse.  Regardless of what the perpetrator tries to rationalize or blame on the victim, the true purpose of abuse is to use another person as an outlet for the abuser's own emotional and psychological stress.  Generally speaking, abuse can happen to anyone at any position, by a parent, bully, peer, or someone not in a position of authority.  Discipline, on the other hand, occurs from someone in a superior position to someone they are responsible for training in some way - parent and child, teacher to student, manager and employee.  (Of course, this implies discipline should not occur from husband to wife).    Discipline is a clear-cut response to a specific fault on the part of someone who is not ignorant to the rules. 

Outside of her father's actions and in reference to one specific argument about whether she should have been disciplined at all: People talk about Hillary's cerebral palsy.  Regardless of the correct disciplinary response, that doesn't give her leave to break the law when she already has been told not to.  In interviews, Hillary is like any other person, mentally and physically, and discipline would apply to her in the same way as anyone else.  Again, I'm not condoning the response, but her disability is not a reason to exempt her from consequences to behavior.

In reference to whether her father acts in an abusive rage: In the beginning of this video, the wife is reiterating to the husband what happened, and the judge reiterates it, saying she has put something "back on" the computer.  In other words, she has been told not to put something specific on her computer (sounds like Zelda) and went back online to illegally download it.  In Hillary's interview, she said she had the camera on for 30 minutes beforehand.  This doesn't suggest that spanking occurred regularly.  Hillary probably knows spanking will occur because her parents were probably discussing it for over than half an hour.    Half an hour of discussion before punishment is dealt out is not uncontrolled abuse.  Again, I'm not talking about the action itself, but the slow, deliberate conversational approach with the conclusion that she needs a spanking is not the action of someone in an abusive state of mind.

I'm not trying to feel sorry for this man at all.  That said, the conversations in the hallway are not of a raging, out of control man; they are of an angry parent who feels betrayed.  You see a man who is a judge regularly responsible for upholding the law.  His daughter has already been told to obey the law before and it appears that whatever discipline was used then was not effective. She has not only disobeyed her parents but also broken the law in a judge's home.  He is clearly angry and shouldn't have used a belt; that said, he shows restraint.  He makes sure the younger sister is out of the room.  When he wants to spank her again for anger alone, he stops himself; he says he should, but he doesn't.  He swears, but doesn't demean her.  The only thing that really approaches emotional abuse here is when he says she doesn't deserve to live in the house because she now lies, cheats, and steals.  He doesn't not take out emotions on his wife or other daughter; he is focused on the person who has disobeyed the rules twice.

While it looks awful, you can look at any YouTube video of any kid being told they are grounded, etc, to see how they will scream and cry.  I am not trying to undermine the victim, I'm just speaking from my own experience of what I was like and what I know other kids are like at 16.  We scream worse than the problem really is to try to convince our parents that the agony they have put us through (being away from the computer for a month or whatever) is more than we can bear.  She knows the video is recording and I have little doubt that she played it up for the camera.  Blows land, but assuredly this is not breaking the skin or bruising her.  With how much she was moving, I'm sure not many actually connected. 

The events do not make sense based on everything Hillary has said about this in interviews.  Abuse escalates in time; it isn't something that happens for "a period of time" and then disappears.  Someone truly in an abusive home often is not only physically but mentally controlled.  They would have been unlikely to have turned on the camera - especially out of fear of the video being found (and it wasn't, which further illustrates that this wasn't a controlling atmosphere).  While I understand that those under mental control would wait to release a video, she still didn't have a good explanation as to why she released it now in interviews. One would say that if she were abused, she doesn't need one.  I would agree, if she were abused, but I'm not convinced of that.

Again, I'm not condemning this, but the backlash to this video has been disproportionate.  Her parents clearly not only love her but go beyond that; she has her own computer at age 16 over 7 years ago.  She has the room of a happy adolescent with a bookcase full of books and posters.  She even has a video camera.  I know this can happen even in an abusive home, but the recording and when it was released don't look like an abuse victim as much as someone who is trying to control outcomes as many kids do.  If you believe her dad, she only released it when her father took her Mercedes away.  With true abuse, Hillary would have a long history of physical injuries that escalated with time(broken skin, brusing, possibly broken bones or concussions).  This isn't to say a belt can't be abusive, but an abuser takes all of their pent-up anger out on the victim. He stung her skin and hurt her pride; that is all.  Regardless of what she says, her mother says, or her father says, this certainly looks a lot worse than it actually is.   I've heard the interviews with both herself and her mother and if you look back at the whole scenario, I do believe they are publicly airing dirty laundry.  The entire scenario is a question of immaturity on the part of Hillary, her mother, and her father.  No one here is innocent and no one here is a victim.

S Carter051912
S Carter051912

All the people in jail this judge locked up are gunna have a blast with his ass after they find out he whipped a kid like that and a female to boot throw him to the wolves

Dan
Dan

What a big man hitting his daughter with that belt, must be real proud of himself.

Blaker287
Blaker287

This type behavior is proof that the majority of the human race is scum. Behavior such as this (and even worse) goes on far too often-- this time it was simply caught on tape.

Just stick him in the electric chair. One less piece of sh*t in the world.

Alexander Good
Alexander Good

 It didn't look that bad. I mean, yes, she was too old to be spanked but really I don't see what the fuss is about.

sarah
sarah

i was abused from age 7 to age 16 and yes it is messed up wat this guy did because the law is that you can spank ur child on the butt or hand without a belt but you can not hit with a belt on anyother area of the body even though ive been through worse than this girl did to me its still messed up because my brother has a serious case of serbal palsy and sometimes they do things without thinking and he should of took that into consideration but he dinnt this issue should of been adressed along time ago because the same thing happened to me where i held back the abuse and dinnt tell anyone till it got bad. well thats all i have to say i hope you guys take my comments into consideration...

nature1
nature1

This man is sick.. plain and simple. Those who want to beat the living life out of this man and can't come up with other ways of dealing with this problem..

are part of the problem... and most likely with this mindset is the reason we have so many sick people out there... Abuse makes for a very sick world.. but the less intelligent who wish to continue their abusive tendencies or acting out with their temper tantrums, and calling this discipline... those 'grownups' who demand, beat, scream, slap, kick, and stomp their feet with self righteousness are broken people behind in their intellectual and emotional development as human beings.. this is otherwise known as retardation in professional terms... delayed in development, intelligence, maturity....for these reasons. . .those who are of this class or level will not be able to rationally see what I am talking about.. the answer is to get them off the streets as usually the damage happened early on and the retardation is often irreversible.. anyone who thinks this kind of domestic or violent activity is normal toward the human race.. is one of these people.. they will do whatever it takes to preserve their species..

Johnlene Kennedy
Johnlene Kennedy

he needs out office now  you know that him in video and him and his wife need to be put in prison

The8ractress
The8ractress

Judge Adams is a monster.  I would think differently if he could look back at that video and admit he was wrong...but he's a chauvinistic, brain washing pig who thinks he does no wrong.  Send him to jail or better yet...are there any huge muscular guys out there that have a belt they can use on him to make him as scared as his daughter Hillary was?  Bend over Judge Adams...your time as a Judge has come to an end....... =)

Mark14
Mark14

Under a Republican President this guy will probably end up on the Supreme Court.

Victortomiczek
Victortomiczek

it seems to me that this "judge" should get a taste of his own punishment. tell him to lie on his stomach and take it like a man ,

Aaa
Aaa

...mom throwing the daughter under the bus.

supermagneticman
supermagneticman

typical of all judges and police they are all very sick people

miracle17
miracle17

Oh my God,..I cried when I saw it...that was pure rage and anger he had for her,.over a damn Game??? she's a child! He definitely needs jail time!! Justice needs to be done the way He placed judgement and punishmenyt on the child abuse cases he resided over. Bast@*#!!!

Joy
Joy

The "mother" tells her daughter to "bend over, and take it like a woman". WTF? This is a strong clue that sadomasochism is practiced in that home.Take it like a woman? I'll bet she gets the belt sometimes too.I've been married quite a long time and have never been whipped, and believe me, my behavior at times has been less than perfect.My father did not believe in whipping children, but my mother was a monster.Mother would remove our clothing and beat us with belts (thin ones hurt more) and willow switches, sometimes she'd use techniques like putting one of our arms behind our back and lifting as we screamed, she was not against punching us in the stomach. She'd tell us not to tell Dad or it would be worse tomorrow while dad was at work. We learned to never let Dad see our backs legs or bottoms bare.  Sometimes she'd draw blood when she whipped us, and mark us so viciously she kept us home from school until we'd healed up a bit in case a teacher saw the whelps, scars and lacerations.  We were too afraid to tell anyone.After Dad died she married a monster match, he also loved beating us for no reason at all, lord help us if we actually did anything. When I was 14 I said enough when my stepfather came at me with a three foot long piece of 2x4. I sprayed Aquanet hairspray in his eyes, took his board away and beat him to within an inch of his life.Because I'd "acted out" I spent 2 years in the nut house at Terrel Texas, and was then sent to Gatesville reformatory, all with no criminal charges, no evidence of mental illness, nothing except refusing to take another beating, it was a learning experience. To this day I bear the scars of physical abuse, I actually shiver when I see somebody pull their belt off to whip a kid. I'm probably carrying some mental baggage too, but I don't live in the past.The young lady in the video is in dire need of assistance.In Texas judges hold great sway she may be stuck in that situation untl she's 18 and can walk out.

Billyvoo
Billyvoo

And this guy is a judge? my parents used to do this to me too without the F bombs. Hopefully hes been bar'd do to barbaric parenting

Lizzie Gowers
Lizzie Gowers

Like an apology is ever going to repair the scars that girl received, physically and emotionally, from being brutally beaten by both of her parents for using a computer. What horrible people.

Dunnski
Dunnski

I will pay an american not an immigrant 1 dollar to cut his head off and shit down his throat, any takers?

Ashesawesome
Ashesawesome

What right does he have to judge anyone? His excuse for beating the shit out of his daughter is that she was mouthy? 

Jim 3 R
Jim 3 R

what is so sad is that this is what this country has to offer as a role model . this is a person with great authority who makes decisions over another childs well being. the law will protect this man. limited or not , this man should never be allowed to sit behind the bench for any reason. it scares me that with all that is happening today in our country , this is the direction our government has taken .

Doctor_faulkner
Doctor_faulkner

hang that piece of shit and his piece of shit wife for joining in.

Louise
Louise

The mother dodnt say the girl should take it like a 16-year-old, she said she should "take it like a woman". What kind of attitude is that to teach a daughter? Biblical? She evidently thinks women should lie down and take it. Would she have the same attitude if the man wielding the belt was the girl's husband? Did she do that in her own marriage? I also wonder if there are minor children the father still has access to. The mother and father are evidently now divorced. I wonder why she didn't just lie down and take it as she directed her daughter to do.

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HALANOW
HALANOW

Judge Adams believes in "discipline". I hope he believes in it for himself, too. I'd suggest that every abused child in his jurisdiction be provided with a belt so they can all "get their licks in" on the Judge, who should also lose his job judging other abuse cases.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Didn't anyone get spanked as a kid?  She's just a being difficult, if you've ever been spanked you know you squirmed and made it a longer ordeal than it had to be.  The screaming is unnecessary, but he's not striking her that hard.  It's obvious from her behavior throughout this whole video release that she is just a brat who has probably had behavior problems her whole life.  My parents spanked me when I deserved it and I turned out just fine.  She was obviously never really abused in her childhood,or adult life.  She's just pissed because Dad is pulling the funds away and she might have to get a real job and real life!  She'll have to work like the peasants!  Poor baby... grow up, ruining your father's career won't make you any money either.  Brat.

Guest
Guest

My mother used an unbendable yard stick on my body. After making me read the Bible-I got the beating and then was placed in a tub of cold water for an hour to remove the whelps on my legs so others could not see. She screamed to me during the beatings that the louder I cried the harder the licks. She was true to her word. She gave me hot soap suds enema's to rid the poisons from me that made me bad. The intestional burning and pressure was unbearable. I turned on her when I was twelve and put my hands around her throat and told her if she ever hit me again I would kill her. She must have believed me because the physical abuse stopped and the emotional abuse began. Her verbal assaults continued for fifty five years and only ended two years ago when she died. What did this "dicipline" do for me? I can endure incredible physical pain. I do not cry when I am hurt. I am a recluse that stays clear of potentially hurtful situations. I have minimal contact with my nuclear family. I have a house full of abused dogs which I lovingly care for. I wash my dishes over and over to remove all spots (the number one reason for my beatings was I did not do the dishes properly) In a nut shell I have missed a multitude of joys in life.I say to this young woman-stay away from your mother-she is a guilty as her father. Press charges and fillow through-not to punish her parents but to start on the path to finding herself before it is too late. Her parents like mine were-are Mentally ill !!!!!!!! No one can come through this type of treatment without significant scars that will limit the ability to have healthy relationships with others.My heart goes out to this girl and I hope that the authorities will prosecute to the fullest extent of the law and she will follow through with pressing charges so that her healing can begin. I have no words to say to the parents. To acknowledge them would be a waste of time and effort.

LIz
LIz

In addition, current parents who have been allowed to "spank" cannot be held responsible for crimes against laws that, basically, are non-existent. If we are to join the 22 nations that are corporal free, and I am all for it, because I LOVE kids, and am basically a "sucker" for their happiness - then, we should also ratify laws to help parents raise their kids.  That would entail a number of social reform in education, the economy, and society! Let's start thinking!!!

LIz
LIz

Sweeping social reforms would need to be in place before current parents are tried for abuse based on the prevailing system of corporal punishment that has been handed down to us by our relatives. Yes, children should not be spanked.  In addition, this society should uphold moral values, and not allow violent computer games, should pray in school, should be directly taught to honor their parent in school and through the community. In addition, parents should vote to dictate to the media what children should learn and receive exposure to through mass media.  Then, this country might be able to raise moral children.

guest
guest

he should be fired.

1717
1717

I know, it's just disgusting. It's like he's getting off on what he's doing. And he's a JUDGE.

Figgy Jones
Figgy Jones

Joy, I pray the rest of your life full of love and remarkably short on fear.

LIz
LIz

This is so true!  Also, sad is the expression of violence, anger, and tyrannical inclinations of some of the fellow bloggers here. After reading them, I have learned alot by what is out there.  Certainly nothing close to our "founding fathers".  Even Fidel behaved in a more civil manner before he declared himself as a criminal, psychopath and tyrant.  With some of the fellow bloggers here, who claim to be "humanitarians", it is easy to feel terror even before they show us their claws.  Anyway, it was good to read your post.  You are so right, Jim, that our role models are sad examples.  Cheers.

SailinShoes
SailinShoes

Actually, the mom said both. That attitude came from her own experience having to "take it" from the old man. So, yes, she had to do that in her own marriage, where she was also being abused by the judge.  The judge still has partial custody of a young girl, age 10 I think. They were divorced in 2007, but until then, the mom was still bending over and taking it like a woman, the way she suggested the daughter do.

These people are fundamentalist Christians. Fundies believe the bible teaches that the wife and children should submit to the man, regardless.  If that includes rolling over and "taking it like a woman" or "taking it like a 16 year old", then so be it.

Trinamv
Trinamv

I believe the whole family is at fault. Dad lost it by beating the girl, mom is weak and went along with the whole thing.  Girl is smart and set up Dad...now Dad isn't supporting her and she turns him in.  "What a little bitch!"  Dad should go into angry management. But so should the wife.  I also think the kid is troubled...and she's 23 why should Daddy keep supporting her?

SailinShoes
SailinShoes

Another punk coming over from Youtube, I see.What difference does it make what motivated her to release that video?  Do her motivations make it less of a crime? The Texas authorities don't seem to think so.  They acknowledge that it is abuse.  What special insight do you have to know she was "obviously" never really abused?  How do you know how hard she is being struck?  My guess is that you're just another blowhard from 4Chan or youtube and don't know squat.

I would also disagree that you turned out "just fine".  You obviously have mental problems.

SailinShoes
SailinShoes

Laws DO exist. Laws DO discriminate between lawful corporal punishment and child abuse. Sometimes, there is a fine line, but to act as if anyone who spanks their kid is setting themselves up for prosecution is ridiculous. That's just a lame attempt to rationalize child abuse and dodge responsibility for your own lack of self-control.

The 22 nations that have laws against corporal punishment are the least violent nations on earth. They also, as you suggest, do not find it necessary to institutionalize the teaching of respect and morality by stupid methods like school prayer.  They, in fact, are not only the most non-violent countries, but they are also the most secular countries on earth. They are also quite liberal economically, with strong social and economic safety nets as well as universal, or near-universal access to higher education and health care. Children derive their notions of morality and respect for others through witnessing the actions of adults, as manifested through public policy, instead of popular corporate media.

For all of these reasons, non-violence, socially and economically liberal, secular, these 22 non-violent countries, mostly social democracies, are as different from the U.S. as night is to day.  This country will NEVER, NEVER, NEVER, not in a million, zillion years EVER ban corporal punishment. To do so is totally contrary to our violent culture and ethos.  It is contrary to biblical teaching. It would be seen as an egregious imposition by the state into the property rights of parents. Just like the U.N. Declaration of Children's rights, it would be fought tooth-and-nail by every fundie church and right wing organization in the country.

In the U.S., children are the property of parents.  Period, end of story. It has forever been so, and it will continue to be so, thanks to the effort of conservatives, Christian and otherwise.  You can do things to your child that you'd be prosecuted for doing to your dog.  There are only a few things you must, by law, do for your children that you are not required to do for your domestic animals.

SailinShoes
SailinShoes

Nonsense.  If parents voted about what children should learn, we'll end up with a bunch of creationist, scientifically ignorant, historically ignorant dummies.  This is exactly what's starting to happen with the influence on textbooks of the morons in the Texas school boards.  Parents have no business dictating what other peoples' kids should learn.  If you want your kid to grow up an ignorant bumpkin, that's your business and you can homeschool them.  

Furthermore, you seem to constantly harp on society's failure to support parents in their task of teaching their children morality.  That's not societies business and right wingers are constantly griping about the "It takes a village" mentality. I would expect that people of your ilk would be the first to complain when the morality being taught runs contrary to your selective reading of your bible.  And, whose prayers should we impose in schools? I suspect a grand battle would ensue if any school proposed praying to Allah instead of Jesus.

We live in a consumerist society where, thanks largely to free-market and christian fundamentalists, the media does not concern itself with educating your kids in matters of morality.  They are out for profit and that is their one, and only reason for existence. Conservatives battle to the death any effort to make corporate America exercise the slightest bit of social responsibility.  Liberals fought tooth and nail, and lost, the battles for things as simple as restrictions on the over-commercialization of childrens' television and ratings for media products directed at young people.  Now, you come along and propose that we impose your selective version of morality on the media, schools and public institutions in general.  

Forget it.  If you don't like what the media has to offer, don't let your kids indulge in it.  If you think your kids don't pray enough, make them pray before they go to school. If you think they need more moral instruction, do it yourself.   We live in a country where it is a constant battle just to maintain a safety net for people who are on the verge of homelessness, starvation and medical catastrophe.  We don't need to engage in some huge effort to teach your brats the difference between right and wrong.  That's YOUR job. And if the only alternative you can think of is to beat the crap out of them, that's YOUR fault and you don't deserve to be a parent.

LIz
LIz

Religion should be seperate from the rights of children  -- period.  To justify it in fear of the reaction of fundamentals is illogical and unnecessary, I think.  They are separate.  The bible refers to many acts of violence that HAVE NO BEARING ON TODAY -- especially after the New Testament, there is no reason to use the Bible as a reason.  I did not know these folks were fundamentalists, SailinShoes - and if you are correct, the complete story has been elucidated by you; and I completely understand.  These people have been torturing children for decades and decades, in the name of "their beliefs"  which are depraved, basically.  They massacre teachings of Christ, with their lack of intelligence and warmth (to say the least...).  Thank your for you post.  BTW, sadly, after I wrote mine, I realized the same thing you stated - that the militaristic nature of our country is probably at the core of our philosophies on child raising --- very said.  But again, we do live in a democracy, okay, and we have made changes that seemed even greater i.e. civil rights. Let us now have a pathetic attitude, things can change for the better!

LIz
LIz

The suspicions of paragraph 1 and 2 have nothing to do with me, because I am a liberal by most people's defintion, with leanings towards the Church of Unity (although I do not belong to it).  You have me pegged wrong!  And, I DID NOT let my kids indulge.  But, sady when they become teenagers, they many learn about it all at once, and some again, sadly, have to go out and find out for themselves.  Fortunately, mine are doing a great job of making choices, Thank God, that is right...  for I  have humility, okay... and, they are using the set of skills and consciousness of love and goodness that I nurtured.  Sorry, but you have misjudged me.  All I am saying is that we have a problem in this country raising children to be good, by and large, because of the lack of support on many levels.  Do you disagree with that??? And, NO, the ALTERNATIVE IS NOT TO BEAT THEM, you are jumping to conclusions.   Excuse, but, you do not sound like a parent. You do not seem to express any empathy for their plight, which I could be wrong in suspecting, okay.  But, am I right on that? NO, you are on the wrong path with me! But, it is okay, it is not easy to cummunicate this way, but hey, it better than the isolation many families have lived in during the past decades, thanks to the work culture we live in of consumerism (sarcastic here).  Well, the truth is that I am happy to consider myself an elightened parent.  No worries about me SS, I am just an involved person sticking her neck on this one.  But, No, I come from a long line of people who have been working on expanding the rights of children. IN fact, I will share with you that my grandfather was a champion of children rights in one of the emerging countries of the Western Hempishere, and his children and grandchildren and great grandchildren have continued in his path. My son who is grown in involved in many many not for profit youth groups, and my girls are leaders in their circles for culture, rights, etc.  So, you got me all wrong!  Anyway, I am writing to much here!  Have a nice Sunday!!!

LIz
LIz

Let us NOT have a pathetic attitude. 

LIz
LIz

another typo sorry: very sad... our prospects for changing these laws.

LIz
LIz

typo:  (i have trouble even spelling it... "fundamentalists".)

LIz
LIz

Anyway, I have no reason to JUSTIFY MYSELF.  One thing we need to get better about in these computer forums, is the way people treat eath other. DO not judge people based on their opinions.  ASK before YOU JUDGE, or INSINUATE. And, this does not really apply to you, but for all those, who feel like they need to insult...  you guys are completely confused and wrong about how to treat people when you discuss things. Maybe if you learn to communicate with each other better, we could begin to change things around here.  right?

LIz
LIz

Sentence three: DID NOT LET MY KIDS INDULGE IN FREE MEDIA UNTIL THEY WERE old enough.  And I did it, then, so they could begin to exercise their own reasoning based on my good teachings comprised of TALKING AND READING. ONLY.... 

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