UH: Big 12, Big East, Some Newly Created Conference Or Oblivion?

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The musical chairs continue
TCU has deservedly gotten the bid to join the Big 12 that the University of Houston was so desperately hoping for.

So what's next for the Coogs? Four scenarios:

4. The Big 12
Some supporters, like State Rep Bill Callegari of Katy, are still holding out hope for entry into the Big 12. The Katy rep issued a statement:

The Big 12′s decision today clearly indicates that the question of expanded membership appears open. If the Conference is to live up to its advertised name -- Big Twelve -- then it needs two additional schools. I urge the Conference's decision-makers to include the University of Houston in either of these remaining slots.

One thing we've learned, of course, is that conferences could not care less whether their names make sense when it comes to the number of teams. UH getting into the Big 12 seems a longshot for now.

3. The Big East
The Big East is reeling and desperate to stay relevant in football. Does that mean reaching out to UH? Possibly.

Whether joining the Big East will be an overall good move is another matter. The conference may lose its automatic BCS-bowl status as teams leave it, and then UH is stuck in an east-coast version of Conference USA. Plus their hoops team would get their ass kicked regularly.

2. A new conference
People are throwing all kinds of crap at the wall these days in college football, and what might stick is some sort of Frankenstein-monster creation combining parts of C-USA, the Big East and the Mountain West, which makes sense only in this insane period of realignment happening now. If anyone had proposed such a deal five years ago, it would have been laughable. It still seems farfetched.

1. Oblivion
So what's left for UH? Buidling a program that dominated C-USA, makes the Liberty Bowl each year and registers on no one's radar? Yeas, Houston is a major TV market, but it's a major TV market that largely ignores the Coogs.

Still, with improvements in football and basketball -- including major facilities upgrades, if they go ahead as scheduled -- UH would still be an attractive pick for some conference. Right?

It's just that these days, absolutely no one knows what's going on. So for the average Coog fan, there's little to do but sit back and keep your fingers crossed.



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Chris
Chris

Craigley is right about the TV ratings, except that I most recently saw the numbers published in Forbes. Anyway, the ratings are quite shocking. Shocking enough to warrant an article discussing why UH would be a prudent choice for the Big 12.

Ken Mills
Ken Mills

UH does not have the leadership that it had back in the 60's, 70's and 80's that put UH on the sports map...UH had some really good football and basketball teams back then, but that leadership and the quality of athletics has also gone.  It really bothers me to see UH dismissed and overlooked.  I really don't see a TCU with nearly as much to offer as UH but yet they got in the B12...I really don't understand that.  It appears that TAM to SEC will leave he entire Southeast and most of East Texas wide upon for SEC schools to come in without a B12 rep in the area.  I would have thought UH would be a big help in that direction, but either the B12 didn't think that or my assumptionis wrong.  At any rate the B12 apparently doesn't want any part of UH and that's a shame

Craigley
Craigley

And don't just sit and cross fingers!  I gave $100 to the stadium fund today.  They have 60 mil so far.Y'all should too:  http://giving.uh.edu/cougarpri...

Why the citizens of this city would prefer to see UH do poorly is beyond me.  Self depreciating yankess need to go back where they came from.

Craigley
Craigley

Major TV market that largely ignores the Coogs?

Not according to the Chronicle study a few years ago and Barron's reports on the TT and OSU game numbers.

It's all about being stuck in C-USA and marganilized by teams who want to recruit Houston. 

If they ignore us they think we will go away.  It ain't gonna happen.The Coogs are FIRED THE HELL UP!@

Samwilson1776
Samwilson1776

Things have dramatically changed at the University of Houston-The move to an on campus facillity is really  starting to show results.  Attendance has imptoved so much selling out for the likes of Texas state and Georgia State really shows the improvement.  Students are tailgating and will continue to attend when they are Alums.  All this is occuring without the help of  or in spite of o the efforts of the AQ  schools in Tx.  There were some big mistakes made by U.H.  athletic directors in the 80's and 90's The support of the current administration and especially the last two athletic directors is rapidly eliminating those mistakes.

FattyFatBastard
FattyFatBastard

Uh, perhaps because Uh didn't produce solid #'s back in the Ware and Klingler days with the Astrodome as its stadium.

Y'all dropped the ball.  I know you're trying to pick it back up, but it still makes me curious.  Is this no longer a commuter school as it was in the 80's and 90's?  College affiliation is a lot harder to understand if you aren't around that campus spirit, and I never saw it there in the 90's when I was in school.

Early Cuyler
Early Cuyler

That is the exact problem, hardly anyone who lives here is actually from here.  I really hope UH gets an invite from the Big 12, but I think it's a long shot.  Couldn't agree more about the yankee carpetbaggers who live here, this is Texas, not New New England, adjust or hit the road.

FattyFatBastard
FattyFatBastard

I've heard this before and it is simply false.  Please tell me where the #1 one place for UH games is in town even?  I still bet UT fans outnumber them there.

Don
Don

The campus have change and increase in fans support, construction of new building, higher standard of enrollment, we hit 39K student body, moving slowly away from commute to campus living, construction of new stadium not far away. We will be far ahead any University in Texas except UT in 2-3 year.-UH alumni-

Coogs
Coogs

Try Lucky's Pub. There were about 5 UT fans there to watch UT/BYU on a 32" screen with about 150 UH fans watching UH/LaTech on the projector. Of course, we only had one side of Lucky's as Florida St. and South Carolina fans had the other side. The Ritz is also a popular spot to watch the games that is always packed. We're a party school. Common misconception.

FattyFatBastard
FattyFatBastard

Sorry, I was mainly referring to the poster who mentioned the Chronicle article.  For whatever unknown reason, it stated that UH had more fans in Houston than UT, or any other school, which is simply ludicrous. 

I know UH has die hard fans.  You just need a lot more of them.

Coogs
Coogs

You've been to a UH watch party ay Lucky's? I was responding to your original question about where the #1 place to watch UH games in Houston is. I agree that Lucky's may not be the #1 place, but it gets pretty rowdy on game day and is packed with UH fans. I never, ever said we had a huge fan base, and there's no reason for you to start with the played out attacks. I was simply answering your question with a verifiable fact. To say we have no following is just silly though, as our tailgate lots and (small) stadium are packed on gamedays, and Lucky's is packed on away games.

I hope Tech wrecks the Aggies this weekend!

FattyFatBastard
FattyFatBastard

Tech was 6-5 the past couple of years and we still sell out every game.  This strategy doesn't work if you want to be in a big time conference.

DuckDuckGoose
DuckDuckGoose

I remember basketball games at Hofheinz Pavilion and before that, Delmar Field House when you could not fit another soul into the seats.

Have top-level sports with true stars playing and you'll get the fans.  If the teams are .500 performers with no star power, then it'll continue to be same ol' same ol' ...

FattyFatBastard
FattyFatBastard

I've been to Lucky's before.  never seen too many UH fans there.  My problem with y'alls notion that you have a huge fan base here is that it simply isn't here.  I'm a TX Tech guy and I'd say UH fans are about on par with us in Houston.  And I can say that as someone who has lived in Houston all my life.  Your fanbase was horrific back when you were in the SWC, yet y'all tend to pretend that never happened.  I remember the Astrodome not even been 1/3 full during your games there.

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