If You're Going to Falsely Tell Cops a Guy Sexually Assaulted You, Don't Get Caught on Camera Announcing Your Plans

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Oh, snap.
"Gotcha" moments don't come more classic than the one that happened in Montgomery County recently.

The Sheriff's Office blotter says two officers were called to an apartment to investigate a sexual assault.

"The alleged victim stated to the deputies that her 26-year-old male friend had sexually assaulted her," the report says.

Fair enough, and with that friend standing in the same apartment, no big manhunt needed.

Not so fast: "Upon further investigation the deputies watched a video recording the male had made that showed the female telling him that she was calling the police because he was making her leave the apartment and she would tell the police he assaulted her."

That must have been some look on the woman's face when the dude hit "play."

Sheriff's Lt. Dan Norris tells Hair Balls he doesn't have any further info on the incident, including the name of the woman, who was arrested for making a false report.

"It was unusual, though," he says. "I remember reading that report and going, 'The man was looking out for himself.'"

There are a few things to ponder:

-- We have to assume this was some sort of romantic relationship, and a one-sided one at that. What is the strategical thinking that leads you to conclude falsely accusing the guy of rape is going to repair it?

-- How long would you let things play out between the woman and the officers, knowing all the time you had that slam-dunk in your pocket? Or do you just sit there praying the phone somehow didn't mess up and not record?

-- Once again, a villain is foiled by blabbing about his or her evil intent. Will they ever learn?



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alrietto
alrietto

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ALICE
ALICE

PLEASE READ JOHN KINSEL'S STORY IT IS ABOUT MY BROTHER. HE IS SERVING A LIFE SENTENCE FOR A FALSE ACCUSATION OF RAPE. GO TO MANDY OAKLANDER LIFE WITHOUT PAROLE. PLEASE MAKE COMMENTS. THANK YOU. THERE IS MORE THAN ONE STORY ABOUT HIM. 

John
John

And why is her identity being protected?  This is ridiculous.  His name would have been smeared within hours without that recording.

Zimba Zumba
Zimba Zumba

Without this recording this man would have been toast. At an absolute bare minimum, even if innocent, he was facing 12hrs in custody, a humiliating medical exam, his DNA and the accusation on permanent record, a lengthy aggressive interrogation, suspicion in the community and a really serious charge over his head for a few months. His name would be made public, hers kept anonymous and there would good possibility of it going to court. The chances of her being charged if exposed would have been very slim.

All on a women's word, nothing else. Most likely though he would have been destroyed.

Wait till the new order affects you sons, grandsons, husbands and fathers and you'll understand what I am saying. Wake up America!!

Sirkissa
Sirkissa

This is becoming more common. Girls/women get mad at a guy and DO lie and claim a fake sexual attack. It's happened to 4 people I know. After all the effort that was made to make rape victims credible, this undermines it all. It's disgusting.

blurghs
blurghs

Here's the thing: there are men sitting in jail for rapes that they did not commit. That's a fact. But for a crew of He-Man Woman Haters Club members to assume that it's as simple as the rape just didn't happen are completely wrong. Women can be raped and misidentify their assailant, and those women don't deserve punishment for a mistake. An awful mistake, but a mistake. That doesn't mean they weren't victims themselves. If anything, the prosecutors victimized the wrongfully accused, not the victim. Take it up with them.

Matt
Matt

I have to wonder how many innocent men are rotting in prison right now because of a false rape charge that they couldnt disprove

Sad to think about and sad knowing that nothing will be done about false rape allegations any time soon.

ManWithPlan
ManWithPlan

False Rape Accusations destroy innocent men's lives, waste police resources, and make it more difficult for genuine victims of rape to find justice. If feminists actually cared about justice for rape victims, they would be speaking out against false rape accusations and calling for women who lie about rape to receive serious punishments. But as is becoming painfully clear, feminism is about man-hating and female supremacy. Victims of rape, and false rape, are just collateral damage to feminists.

Shiny
Shiny

Was she a hooker that he refused to pay? This seems likely.  And it adds a(nother) creepy dimension to the recording if so.

Lucky Star
Lucky Star

You know it is hard enough for women who finally find the courage to report what happened to them to get the police to take them seriously without stupid bitches like this casually throwing around accusations that have no basis in reality.  Women like this hurt women like me who have survived sexual assault.  What a horrible thing for her to do!

D.J
D.J

He should be allowed one free sexual assault on this woman.

cbinflux
cbinflux

Please give her some serious jail time!

Burton Dow
Burton Dow

Don't do it in Illinois. Making an audio recording without permission of the person being recorded is a felony. 

Of course, it is probably a better felony to be convicted of than rape...

None
None

But I thought women never lie about rape?

daveinga
daveinga

the crime here (false rape claim) is not being pursued, as usual. in our fem-society she will pay a small fine, probably nothing else. he, otho, could have spent a lot more than a night in jail. as long as fem-judges continue non-practice of (equality before) the law, this epidemic of false accusations for rape, molestation, etc. by women will continue. no punishment = no crime.

ManWithPlan
ManWithPlan

Thank you. You're right. I care about genuine rape victims, and I care about those falsely accused. There is no reason we have to throw the latter under the bus to protect the former.

Zimba Zumba
Zimba Zumba

Stop trying to conflate willful false rape accusations with misidentification.

Stop pretending you are a man as you do below, you clearly aren't.

Wow
Wow

you have too narrow a view.  a false accusation of rape is NOT the same thing as a rape case that doesn't reach a conviction.  there is a middle ground, like you mention, where situations such as misidentification can greatly affect someone who was not involved.  this false binary you set up where it is one or the other shows how you are unsympathetic to the victims of real false accusation, as you consider those who are maliciously falsely accused to be the same as someone who was simply misidentified by an actual victim of a sexual crime.

this woman should be on the sex offenders registry.  she's hopefully going to be found guilty of a crime that should be considered a sexual assault (after all, it does exploit and criminalize male sexuality).

ManWithPlan
ManWithPlan

The following website has extensive archives, taken from publicly available news sources, of women who knowingly and purposefully accused men or rape, molestation, and assault.

http://falserapesociety.blogsp... 

ALICE
ALICE

MY BROTHER JOHN KINSEL IS ONE OF THOSE INNOCENT MEN ROTTING IN PRISON BECAUSE HE WAS FALSELY ACCUSED OF RAPE !!!!! HE GOT LIFE WITHOUT PAROLE !!! HE, AS WELL AS OUR WHOLE FAMILY ARE VICTIMS. IT HAS BEEN A LIVING HELL. WE HAVE DEALT WITH THIS GOING ON 15 YEARS. YOU CAN READ HIS STORY AT MANDY OAKLANDER LIFE WITHOUT PAROLE. WE GOT A RARE HEARING IN THE U.S. FIFTH CIRCUIT COURT OF APPEALS. THEY SAID THEIR HANDS ARE TIED BY THE ANTI-TERRORISM AND EFFECTIVE DEATH PENALTY ACT OF 1996. WHICH WAS ENACTED BECAUSE OF THE OKLAHOMA CITY BOMBING. THE PERSON THAT PUT HIM IN PRISON RECANTED HER STORY IN 2005. WE WENT TO COURT IN 2006 AND SHE TESTIFIED AND SAID JOHN NEVER TOUCHED HER. JOHN RECEIVED A NEW TRIAL BUT IT WAS APPEALED AND THE STATE OF LOUISIANA WON. STORIES LIKE THIS INFURIATE ME TO NO END !!! IT'S SO WRONG TO FALSELY ACCUSE SOMEONE OF ANYTHING, BUT SOMETHING AS SERIOUS AS THIS IS BEYOND WRONG. PLEASE READ MY BROTHER'S STORY AND COMMENT ON IT. ALSO IF YO HAVE A FACE BOOK PAGE PLEASE PASS IT TO ALL OF YOUR FRIENDS AND FAMILY. I'M REALLY GLAD THE GUY IN THIS STORY DID WHAT HE DID BECAUSE HE COULD AND PROBABLY WOULD HAVE ENDED P IN JAIL. 

Chuck Hardin
Chuck Hardin

Why does this seem "likely"?  It sounds more like "bullshit" to me.

ManWithPlan
ManWithPlan

I agree, but please also consider the ruined lives of the men they falsely accuse.

HMH
HMH

Lucky Star, I sympathize with you for your victimhood, but only up to a point with regard to this story.  Women who falsely accuse men of rape do infinitely more direct harm to the men they falsely accuse, many of whom wind up with jail time and with lifetime records of being sex offenders.  Those women also do indirect harm to ALL men, all of whom are potential victims of false accusation in a society that has been reluctant to give them the benefit of the doubt.  If more and more cases of false accusation are brought to light, and if they make life more difficult for victims of rape, well, sorry, but victims of false accusation need at least as much legal defense.  "Better that 10 guilty men go free than to convict a single innocent man."

None
None

Ditto Maryland. 

ManWithPlan
ManWithPlan

I'm so confused. Next thing you know, we're going to find out the "gender wage gap" is a bunch of bullhockey too. Wait a minute...

blurghs
blurghs

Fem-society? Really? Do you have any idea how many rapes go unreported because of the stigma that we as a society associate with rape? Do you realize that that very stigma is just another form of victimization, one that men rarely have to deal with?

The actual ideological epidemic we face isn't one of a "fem-society" but one of false claims of victimization that use actual victims as scapegoats. Either way, I for one would welcome our theoretical fem overlords.

blurghs
blurghs

People who report to be victims of a crime should be treated as victims of a crime until evidence proves otherwise. When it proves otherwise, there is recourse for civil litigation and in some cases criminal charges like perjury and obstruction. Putting this woman on a sex offenders registry is a petty response based on revenge principles on not justice nor even fairness.

I see false accusations on a near daily basis. Proven, false accusations. For men actually sent to jail or prison, the failure lies not on the victim who reported the crime but on the prosecutors who pursued the case and the police who failed to investigate. Attacking the credibility of women who report rape on a whole does nothing to lessen the number of false claims of rape.

No one here has laid a case for preventing false rape accusations, only seeking revenge for rape accusations.

ALICE
ALICE

THAT WAS SUPPOSE TO BE HE COULD HAVE ENDED UP IN JAIL.

Shiny
Shiny

It is the simplest explanation for the events reported: a woman having sex with a man at his apartment, refusing to leave, and threatening to call the cops on the guy to report a sex assault unless she got what she wanted?

And why would he be recording random stuff like this unless he knew there was going to be some kind of issue (e.g., him planning not to pay a prostitute).

ALICE
ALICE

NOT ONLY ARE THOSE MEN'S LIVES DESTROYED, THEIR WHOLE FAMILY'S LIVES ARE TOO. MY BROTHER IS DOING A LIFE SENTENCE FOR A FALSE ACCUSATION. IT IS HORRIBLE TO WAKE UP EVERY DAY AND WONDER IF HE IS OK OR NOT. IT HAS TO BE HORRIBLE FOR HIM TO WAKE UP IN A NIGHTMARE OF HELL EVERY DAY BECAUSE OF THE LIES OF A LITTLE GIRL, WHO RECANTED HER STORY AFTER HE HAD BEEN IN PRISON FOR 8 YEARS ! YET HE REMAINS IN PRISON STILL TODAY, HIS NAME IS JOHN KINSEL. PLEASE READ HIS STORY. GO TO MANDY OAKLANDER LIFE WITHOUT PAROLE. THIS NIGHTMARE COULD HAPPEN TO ANY OF US, MALE OR FEMALE.

ALICE
ALICE

AMEN TO THAT !!!!!!!!

Ernoop
Ernoop

Thankfully that will never happen.

John
John

What stigma?  I'm not sure I understand this 'stigma' that rape victims go through.

gwallan
gwallan

Half the victims of child sexual abuse are boys. Among adults there are more instances of rape involving male victims than female. 

What is it you think men rarely have to deal with that women don't in this regard? 

Just so YOU understand it is not women, any more than men, who face victimisation and stigma. It is victims be they girls, boys, men or women. AND it is also those falsely accused. Make no mistake that the psychological harm done by the false accusation is so similar to that of actual rape as to be almost indistinguishable.

Those who lie about rape, whether about their own status or that of other victims more broadly, do great harm. The false accuser does great direct harm to their victim both in the the short term and long. Those who lie about victims more generally harm a great many. Whilst subtler than the false accuser they contribute to significant marginalisation for large numbers of real victims.

"one that men rarely have to deal with?"

I'm sure you believe you speak in defence of victims. It's such a pity that you choose to directly erase significant numbers of victims in your pursuit of this goal. 

Lally
Lally

If we were still living in Victorian times, I would buy the "stigma" claim, but we are not.

There is no "stigma" about rape in this country.  Anyone making a rape claim is awarded "survivor" status and given heroeship awards.

How can there be a "stigma" for reporting rape, but no "stigma" for falsely reporting rape?

False accusers are usually given a pat on the head and offers of "counseling" for their agnst. The most blatant and damaging false accusers are not prosecuted, or are prosecuted for unrelated crimes...so where's the "stigma"?

Even very young children in our society know the meaning of "bubba's bitch" -America's favorite punchline - yet you claim there is no "stigma" men can understand about rape?

With the U.S.'s largest male prison population the world has ever seen, I would hazard a guess that more men are raped on a daily basis in this country than women.

We all know this because we all laugh about it.  Male rape = funniest thing going.  Female rape = heinous tradgedy.

Female babysitters, teachers, and neighbor ladies are given probation or very light sentences for molesting boys while men are given life in prison on a women's say so.

I don't think you are exactly "sensitive" toward the reality of being an American male these days.

You can buy into the "legions of unreported rapes" fantasy, and "women never lie" myth...until the day one of those sorry bitc..ahem, I meant to say "poor victims"  falsely accuses a man you KNOW is innocent...

...THEN you'll see how the "system" works...and trust me.  You won't like it.

Obdurate
Obdurate

>>Do you have any idea how many rapes go unreported because of the stigma that we as a society associate with rape?

No, I don't; neither do you. As they are unreported, any assertion of a number is simply guesswork. 

Dhs
Dhs

Do you have any idea how many false rape claims go unpunished because of the bias against men in our society? It's roughly equal to the number of actual rapes.

People like you are a part of the problem. You enable women like this to do great harm with their lies.

Zarkoy
Zarkoy

You say: No one here has laid a case for preventing false rape accusations, only seeking revenge for rape accusations.

I don't understand if you are purposefully ignorant, or just misunderstanding the situation. By that same token, why send a murderer or a rapist to prison? It's not preventing the murder or rape, it's just punishing the criminal for it.

The price paid for a false rape accusation is precisely nil in most cases. In fact, in the UK, they reward victims of violent crimes, and in sexual assault cases, they get to keep the money even if it was proven they are a liar and the assault didn't happen. Queue the Swedish woman that was just bilking the insurance system for a quarter of a million a pop by randomly accusing British tourists of rape, because she knew the UK would punish the innocent.

Punishing the false rape accusers will deter future false rape accusers, and allow the police to take rape cases much more seriously. Past and future rape victims win from this, the innocent win from this, the police wins from this.

The only people that do not win from this are the political feminists that don't care about rape victims but only use them to promote their agenda.

An Average American
An Average American

Actually a victim is not a victim until evidence proves otherwise.  Quite the contrary is the case in US criminal law, the accused is not a criminal until they are proven guilty beyond all reasonable doubt.

Tbdanconroy
Tbdanconroy

Punishment is NOT the same as revenge, and is what happens to perps of every other crime. 

Knowing you will be punished is the preventative measure for all other crimes. Why not rape liars?

Deoxy
Deoxy

I'm married to a woman who was raped before I ever met her.  It has strong negative effects on our sex life, even now, 20ish years after teh fact.  Rape is BAD BAD thing.

Claiming rape falsely puts men in prison for years... where they have a significantly higher chance of being raped.  They are also labeled for life as a sex offender.  False accusations of rape are also a BAD BAD thing.

A victim is someone who had something bad done to them.  Someone who falsely reports a crime is not a victim - they are indeed referred to presumptively as victim at first, but that is only an assumption, not an actual fact.  You just referred to a false accuser (in a case where the man was convicted) as a "victim".

"By the way, a false accuser is not a "victim", but a criminal perpetrator. The real victim is the man who was falsely accused."

That is a simple statement of fact.  The criminal act was the false accusation, and the victim was the one falsely accusing.  The false accuser was in no way the victim in that situation and should never be referred to as such.

blurghs
blurghs

Then create a new word for people who report crimes done against them. A victim is a victim until evidence proves otherwise, and a suspect is a suspect until evidence proves otherwise. It's how our criminal justice system works and has worked for ages, decades before feminism came about. You're projecting your dissatisfaction and anger onto an entire gender.

This woman should be prosecuted for obstruction, but not for rape or a sexual offense. You're willing to redefine what an actual sexual assault consists of, lessening the degree of severity involved with an actual assault. It leads one to conclude that you have absolutely no consideration for rape victims when you compare their experience to a man who caught a woman lying to the police about being raped. They're completely legally incompatible and incomparable.

Equality
Equality

This woman is a sex offender. You just want to let her off because you are playing the white knight. And with false accusations, the primary responsibility and blame ALWAYS lies on the accuser.

By the way, a false accuser is not a "victim", but a criminal perpetrator. The real victim is the man who was falsely accused.

Zarkoy
Zarkoy

It said friend. So no, it's not the simplest explanation. I understand you are trying to slime the man to protect the criminal false rape accuser, but this is going slightly overboard.

As to your question as to why he would have a random recording device: given the massive amount of false rape accusations, any man that is just meeting a woman should use a recording device. It costs next to nothing, and can save you from a 25-60 years prison term.

Alphabeta Supe
Alphabeta Supe

What a foolish thing to write. You ignore the actual issue here - false rape allegations - to thump your chest over the entirely separate matter of rape. You are the worst kind of man in today's Marxist world: the mangina. Harken to your own impotence.    

Alphabeta Supe
Alphabeta Supe

No luck is needed. The facts speak for themselves. Women lie about rape - everyone knows that now. Men are an underclass under feminism. It never ceases to amaze me how fools love to advertise their foolishness.

ManWithPlan
ManWithPlan

Thank you for your kind words.

But where do you get the idea that i am opposed to investigating claims? Prosecuting false rape accusers in no way prevents investigating claims of rape. The Feminist ideology that "no women lie about rape" and "If she says she was raped, then she was raped" encourages more vindictive women to make false claims, thereby wasting police resources and marginalizing real victims. For example, the Orlando, FL Police Department, earlier this year, just warned the entire community to stop frivolous accusations of rape and assault because it was affecting their ability to investigate real crimes and protect genuine victims.

If an advocate for women genuinely wants to see women protected and justice served, false rape accusations need to be vehemently condemned. That in no way prevents vigorous investigations of rape, nor does it prevent people from going to the cops if they have been raped. One would have to have a really low opinion of women to think they can't tell the difference between a truth and a lie.

I care about genuine rape victims, and I care about those falsely accused. There is no reason we have to throw the latter under the bus to protect the former.

blurghs
blurghs

The criminal justice system failed you. For that, I'm sorry. I would hope that you would understand, then, importance of investigating the claims of victims. Sex offenders come in all shapes, sizes, genders, etc.

But by framing this issue as one about gender equality is a dishonest one, because victims also come in all shapes, sizes and genders. There are girls and women who, similarly to you, have their violations ignored or who never tell anyone because they assume no one will beleive them. No numerical quantification will satisfy those who disagree with me, but enough stories like yours exist regardless of the victim's gender.

Again, I'm sorry that the system failed you. You deserved better.

ManWithPlan
ManWithPlan

Hi, I am a man who was molested by a woman repeatedly when I was a boy. I told people about it and no one believed me. It has caused me much pain and hardship throughout my life.

False rape accusations ruin lives, waste police resources, and make it harder for genuine victims to be taken seriously. Therefore, they should be punished more severely and taken seriously by anyone interested in justice. This should be plainly obvious to any thinking adult, however, as feminism is the goddess cult for spoiled children it's clear why you don't get it.

blurghs
blurghs

As a man who works with the law, reads and sees accounts of legal miscarriages and is blessed with amazing women in my family and personal life who help me everyday, I understand and know painfully well that there are innocent people harassed for crimes that they didn't commit. I have seen those victimized by the courts for crimes they didn't commit. But that doesn't make it in any way acceptable to demean the experiences of those who report violent bodily harm done to them. That's why we have police: to investigate crimes and either build or facilitate the dismissal of charges. If you have a problem with anything, take it up with the actual investigators who pursue false cases.

No one that I've found has been able to confirm any of Kanin's theories because his data set hasn't be sourced. And regarding the USAF:

While the data suggest the sexual-assault rate in the Air Force is roughly equal to what it is in the broader civilian population, the survey – obtained exclusively by the Monitor – points to unique challenges presented by the culture of the service. The vast majority of crimes identified in the survey are committed by male airmen on female airmen, and nearly half of rape victims said they did not report the crime because they "did not want to cause trouble in their unit.” Source

There are real victims of false accusations, but there are real victims of rape too. No one is arguing that those who lie to police and prosecutors shouldn't face consequences; there are channels for that. But for you (I assume mostly) men to so callously argue that the fact that victims of crime should be treated like liars at the first sign of inconsistency after what can be a traumatic experience shows that you really are out of touch with your humanity.

I hope that if a woman special to your life God-forbid comes to you with with the trauma of rape that you treat her with the respect and gravity that she and the situation deserves and not the bitter skepticism you've all revealed today.

Babbo
Babbo

@blurghs:disqus I'd like to turn your accusation around and challenge you to educate yourself on the reality of certain rape statistics. http://www.hrw.org/legacy/repo... Human Rights Watch estimated that 140,000 people were raped in US prisons in 2001. The vast majority of the US prison population are men. In contrast, Justice Department statistics indicate about 90,000 rapes in the general US population for that year. Putting innocent people in jail in the current environment will inevitably result in more Americans being raped. Unless you are for some reason okay with this, I encourage you to reconsider your convictions.

Matt
Matt

AND the feminist manhater reveals herself. LOL good job hun, I love it when feminists reveal how bitter and brainwashed the are.

Eugene Kanin study confirms 41% of rapes to be false in a small community.

US Airforce Study confirms 60% of rape allegations to be false.

Equality
Equality

Actually, a false rape claim can be worse than actually being raped in some cases. This is because men who are falsely accused can go to jail, and be raped repeatedly there - in addition to all the other suffering they have to endure.

blurghs
blurghs

Woe is the male gender for false rape charges. Seriously, it must be just like actually being raped and not being able to tell anyone.

The fact that you think there is actually a bias against men in this country, nay our society, is evidence enough of how out of touch you are with society, and of how absolutely engrossed you are in your ignorance and victimhood.

Good luck with that.

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