Texas Attorney General Wants New York Gun Lovers to Move to Texas

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Even for Texas this ranks about a 9.8 on the "YEE HAW, WE'RE FROM TEXAS" crazy shit-o-meter. Attorney General Greg Abbot has launched a quasi campaign to encourage people in commie states like New York, who feel like their liberties are being infringed upon because they can't own a garage full of assault weapons, to move to Texas. They have a Facebook page and everything.

"You'll fit right in here in Texas!" is the banner tagline on the page lifting our rootin', tootin', gun shootin' status to Yosemite Sam-like levels. Facepalm-worthy Web banner ads like the one above have been running all over New York (including on the New York Times Web site) with quotes like, "Is Gov. Cuomo looking to take your guns? Sick of the media outing law abiding gun owners? Are you a lawful NY gun owner seeking lower taxes?" and "Wanted: Law abiding New York gun owners looking for lower taxes and greater opportunity" no doubt causing New Yorkers to chuckle and many Texans to say, "Oh, for fuck sake!"

According to TalkingPointsMemo.com Abbott ran the ads because he doesn't believe political leaders should "take advantage of the [Newtown] tragedy to trample on Constitutional rights."

The full content of the Facebook page Web site is as follows:

Here in Texas, you will have the liberty and the opportunity to achieve your dreams. On top of that, we have no income tax, yet still manage to have a multi-billion dollar budget surplus.

We have right to work laws and a reasonable regulatory environment. Texas has created more than 275,000 jobs in the last year alone! And we'll fight like hell to protect your rights.

You'll also get to keep more of what you earn and use some of that extra money to buy more ammo.

I hope to see you soon in Texas. In the meantime, sign up to show your support for our second amendment rights.

Yee haw.

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johansen
johansen

I wonder about the Governor here in Texas. From where I come, if my relations had behaved in the same manner we would have thought him jesting or intoxicated. We would have laughed, hardly voting him into a responsible position to care after the welfare of other citizens.

delano
delano

And tuition breaks at places like Lone Star College and University of Texas, Austin.

jose257
jose257

It is remarkable that the states most resistant to gun control are the states most willing to violate the Constitution.  The feds passed a constitutional amendment to outlaw alcohol but did no such thing for marijuana.

Justice Scalia's "drug war exception" to the Constitution is a blessing to Texas because they embrace the drug war and hate the Constitution when they don't agree with it.

What good are guns if they aren't used to uphold the rule of law, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness?

mrbillpro
mrbillpro

You kids can argue about your guns, I just want to do Christina Hendricks.

dcc624
dcc624

Texas! In the immortal words of the Tennessee senator, Davey Crockett! When speaking to the Tenn. Senate said; Y'all can go to hell, I am going to Texas! Due to current federal laws criminals must serve their time. That's good, Upon release they have have not been properly trained to rejoin the work force. That's bad.

They are then disperse into main stream society. Thats bad but necessary. They cannot get a job. That's bad. They will get hungry and will steal to eat. That leave it entirely up to you. You can choose to protect yourself and family or take a chance that you want become a target. I choose to protect myself and family.

Come to Texas buy a gun and protect yourself.

Mary Walker
Mary Walker

Guns before kids. Duh- he totally has his priorities straight. I didn't vote for him.

H_e_x
H_e_x

Who in the hell would uproot their entire life just for some guns?

dwdickersonjr1
dwdickersonjr1

I'm an independent, and I stand with no political party. As far as I'm concerned, the Democrat and Republican parties are one and the same, and ALL of the other political parties have been taken over by that one party. No, I don't see any of them as being trustworthy. Politicians are like bad guns - won't work, can't fire them.

Heh. Encourage New Yorkers to come to Texas...lol... Ah well, let 'em come. The folks here that don't want guns around now have a safe haven to run to. After all, New York City has it's own army. No, not police force, ARMY. They don't have those nasty old semi-auto fake "assault rifles", they carry full auto machine guns! And they do such a good job keeping illegal guns off of the streets that they have no gun crime at all. As a matter of fact, they have completely eliminated illegal drugs and gangs! It's so safe in New York that our local gun haters will love it there.

So yeah, our gun haters can move there, and their guns lovers can come here. Win-win for us all!

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jethro
jethro

Instead of arming every Texas citizen and pretending to play Davey Crockett, why not solve the root problem you mention. If we incarcerate too many (and we do), for too little (like a little weed or blow) and then simply warehouse them away without training to do anything productive, then that's a problems of our own making. However, there are few problems man has created, that man cannot solve. Certainly better than reverting to the wild west.

Hauptstadt
Hauptstadt

@H_e_x 

Perhaps you are unaware of the slogan Live Free, or Die.

To many, ideas are more important than possessions and substantially overshadow the inconvenience of a move.

dwdickersonjr1
dwdickersonjr1

And that line was supposed to be "no concept of reality".


dwdickersonjr1
dwdickersonjr1

To those who feel that the political parties are not all the same, sorry but I disagree. This is not a reference to the citizens that involve themselves in politics, but the politicians themselves. I see ALL politicians of every party to be spoiled rich brats with concept of reality.


You don't agree with me? Well, it's a free country. And I don't hate other people for having different ideas than me.


Anse
Anse

If you really think the Democrats are no different than the Republicans, you are just about as clueless as the Tea Partiers. Pay attention. We're no angels and we're no geniuses, but we are not anything like Republicans.

Hauptstadt
Hauptstadt

@dwdickersonjr1 No offense, but if you think the Repubs and Dems are the same, you haven't been paying attention for the last 30 years. I used to believe the same Nader line, and true they both are funded by corporate interests, but if you look across a wide range of issues they aren't even close.

Anse
Anse

I'm curious to know why those righteous gun warriors wouldn't stand up to their oppressive NY government. That's why they have the guns anyway, isn't it? Oh but when you press the gun warriors on stuff like this, they always find an excuse. "It's not time." "We're not there yet." etc and so forth. I think all but the nuttiest of them have no intention of ever firing a shot at the government. I theorize that the louder somebody rattles his saber is conversely proportional to an escalating level of inherent cowardice.

H_e_x
H_e_x

@dwdickersonjr1 @H_e_x I suppose gun store owners, but Id imagine it would be difficult to transport all those guns across so many states.

H_e_x
H_e_x

@No_PC_BS @H_e_x Not a huge fan of the clothing line. Too expensive for the quality presented.

Anse
Anse

It's a weak, shallow, I've-given-up-and-decided-they-all-suck mentality. It's not perceptive to what's really going on. It's just a lazy way out. This way, if things go bad, you can pretend you saw it all along. It requires no courage nor any conviction to say everything sucks. Politics has never been a clean and orderly process, most especially in a free democracy. There have been haters in every generation.

Hauptstadt
Hauptstadt

@dwdickersonjr1 Well if that's the way you want to look at politics and public policy that's a very nuanced view I must say. I don't care if their spoiled or not. FDR came from wealth, but he did the right thing.

dwdickersonjr1
dwdickersonjr1

@Anse The Republicans took over the Tea Party and the Libertarian party long ago. I was a Libertarian at one time, until big business and corporations moved in and took over.

corposanto
corposanto

@Hauptstadt  I agree more with the cowardly explanation, but I guess I might be a coward without proper arms. But then again, we witness many uprisings around the world where one side is poorly armed, yet brave. Mid East, Afghanistan, even the American revolutionaries.

No_PC_BS
No_PC_BS

@Hauptstadt  Concern Troll: a concern troll is someone who is on one side of the discussion, but pretends to be a supporter of the other side.

Hauptstadt
Hauptstadt

@No_PC_BS @corposanto 

The reason they don't rise up and toss off the yoke of oppression these repressive regimes like New York impose is because they are simply outgunned. And that's due to wishy-washy positions that would accept limitations on our 2nd amendment rights. With the amendment effectively neutered by such limitations, it almost makes no difference quibbling about these tiny matters of enhanced record-keeping, enforcement and background checks. 

Hauptstadt
Hauptstadt

@No_PC_BS @corposanto Son, if you'd rather not be part of the conversation stop conversing. But in the absence of any ideas, please stop sniping with hurtful words like troll and stalker and stalker troll. I don't reference your status as a janitor when I disagree with a point you make.

No_PC_BS
No_PC_BS

@corposanto I think he's obsessed with me. Must be. Why even mention me in a thread I'm not even a part of. Stalkerish to say the least.

Hauptstadt
Hauptstadt

@Anse 

An excellent question and one I would put to our noble tough-talking  mini-patriot NO PC BS. I hope that he won't say that it would be an uneven battle logistically, but that's ok.

dwdickersonjr1
dwdickersonjr1

@No_PC_BS @H_e_x Well, you would think so, but unless I am wrong, many states do not recognize the same laws regarding firearms and other weapons. Drive into New York state, get pulled over with a gun of any kind, even disassembled and packed in a locked case in the trunk, even while holding a valid CHL, and watch what happens. One of the things that can bite a legal gun owner is a mishmash of conflicting state laws.

No_PC_BS
No_PC_BS

@H_e_x Why? It's the same thing as any other legal cargo.

H_e_x
H_e_x

@dwdickersonjr1 @H_e_x I know that within a city or a state you can transport a few guns in your car without any problem. The state line part would be nightmarish.

corposanto
corposanto

@No_PC_BS @corposanto

Just showing there's another reality behind what politicians claim and what they do. Same point as JW makes. It seems to shock you nonetheless.

No_PC_BS
No_PC_BS

@corposanto   Why compare at all? All you are trying to do is move the conversation onto a Repub to bash. It's so predictable, corpo. 

corposanto
corposanto

@No_PC_BS @Hauptstadt  

If you're discussing religion and politics and the bible and behavior based on the bible and christian faith, it seems a fair comparison to make. Who else besides the fundamentalists hold themselves out as the embodiment of biblical and christian virtue?  And who else claim that their political views reflect that? So if Obama really is animated by the same faith and belief in scripture, it seems the comparison is a logical one, right?

No_PC_BS
No_PC_BS

@Hauptstadt  I understand when an Obama sheeple tries to divert attention off of him, boy. It doesn't work with me, try a different tactic. Consult your Leftist Handbook if needed. 

Hauptstadt
Hauptstadt

@No_PC_BS @Hauptstadt 

Son, we are discussing religion and the bible and your claim that Obama is motivated by the same principles as Christian fundamentalists, of which Bachman is one. (I can't help you much, if you can't grasp the basic gist of a conversation)

No_PC_BS
No_PC_BS

@Hauptstadt   We are not discussing Michelle Bachman, we are discussing Barack Obama. No diversions allowed, sorry.

Hauptstadt
Hauptstadt

@No_PC_BS @Hauptstadt 

Let me help you, though I'm uncertain whether I agree with the point.

You missed the irony in what corpo wrote. You believe Obama really is motivated by the bible in the same way Michelle Bachman and other christian fundamentalists are? If that were actually the case, why are their policies so different? Think that's how he was jesting with you.

So, an appropriate response might be what....(you can do this one on your own)

No_PC_BS
No_PC_BS

@Hauptstadt  I'll add reading comprehension to the list of things you suck at.

Hauptstadt
Hauptstadt

@No_PC_BS @corposanto 

Good god son, you talk in circles. Can't you utter a complete thought. "It's relevant because of this and this and this...that's why'.

You need some remedial education when it comes to argument.

No_PC_BS
No_PC_BS

@corposanto Don't you remember stating he wasn't motivated by scripture and The Bible? Quit wasting my time.

No_PC_BS
No_PC_BS

@corposanto On the contrary, very relevant. And no diversions, we are discussing Obama.

corposanto
corposanto

@No_PC_BS @corposanto  

It's irrelevant what his faith is, or what he claims it to be. His policies are what matter. How many Christian politicians spew endless sanctity, and then enact cruel laws?

corposanto
corposanto

@No_PC_BS@dwdickersonjr1 

Did you not comprehend what he wrote? 

"politicians have a habit of saying what they think people want to hear" 

That might even apply to the 'direct quotes' you drool over as if you've uncovered something amazing.

dwdickersonjr1
dwdickersonjr1

@No_PC_BS @dwdickersonjr1 I read it. But when a politician speaks anything regarding religion, I tend to be very skeptical. I'm sure he claims to be christian. That's fine. To someone like me (I'm not an atheist, but I claim no faith), his proclaiming to be a member of a faith really means nothing, other than his use of religion as a tool, and I look rather askance at that. Not that it would matter to him. Invoking religion as he did, is just a politician's tool. I don't put any stock in it.

No_PC_BS
No_PC_BS

@dwdickersonjr1  Read the link I posted, DW. I has direct quotes from him on his faith. I know it goes over like a lead balloon to some in here though. haha

No_PC_BS
No_PC_BS

@Hauptstadt  I see you are in damage control mode & want to quickly divert attention off of your King. Not going to happen, sorry.

dwdickersonjr1
dwdickersonjr1

@No_PC_BS As gun control, politics, and religion would simply turn our message thread into a flame war I think I'll avoid that topic and say that politicians have a habit of saying what they think people want to hear. I have no idea what religion Obama practices, if any, beyond politics. And I think he, as well as most presidents, wears a false face in public. So I'll take whatever is published regarding his religion with a few kilos of salt.

Hauptstadt
Hauptstadt

@No_PC_BS You seem as ignorant about politics as you are about guns and 2nd amendment matters. Every politician is going to say that boilerplate. How many out of the closet atheists have we elected? And don't mislead yourself by claiming they aren't in Congress.

You watch policy, and behaviour, not words. Good god!

dwdickersonjr1
dwdickersonjr1

@Anse I do not believe Obama is motivated by religion. He's a human being and his own desires and ideas motivate him. I don't like him as a president, but to be honest I don't think anyone on earth would do a job I would agree with holding that office. Myself included (me hold office!? HAH!). I think Obama is a puppet, but he is not the evil antichrist he's often accused of being.

No_PC_BS
No_PC_BS

@Anse  Yes, anyone who dares disagree with your ridiculous stances is automatically a troll. Yep.

No_PC_BS
No_PC_BS

Should I post the link in which he himself stated many of hi policies are based on his faith? You still wouldn't believe it I bet.

Anse
Anse

No_PC is a troll, which unfortunately is what much of the American right wing has become: an entire movement of trolls.

corposanto
corposanto

@Anse No_PC thinks that Obama is motivated by scripture and I mean the Holy Bible. Hence,  why his policies are identical to Michelle Bachman's. How about that case?

Anse
Anse

Only Republicans think Obama is a Muslim from Kenya who is trying to brainwash us into UN drones.

dwdickersonjr1
dwdickersonjr1

@Anse I know that. I just simply refuse to let go of the idealism I have always carried. One of my personal foibles is that where my ideals are concerned I'm very unlikely to compromise or negotiate. Right is right and wrong is wrong. Like you, I don't consider the founding fathers saints either. If I am anything, politically, I recognize only responsible self government. I also have to recognize that that requires that non-existent society you mentioned.

Anse
Anse

As long as we have elections, we will always have politics. You cannot have one without the other. You'd have to have a society of enlightened, well-educated people who aren't superstitutious or easily manipulated...and that society does not exist. It was just as true in the 1790's as it is true today. The Founders had their intrigues, their scandals, their factions and personal vendettas. We worship them like saints today and it blinds us to the truth about our history. We're in an especially crazy and paranoid time, but we'll get through it like we always have.

dwdickersonjr1
dwdickersonjr1

@Anse Well, perhaps. I don't see it that way. Politics has never been clean and orderly - politics being the problem. Take away the politics and have our leaders actually deal with the business of the country and not every special-interest group that comes along, and that means folks like the NRA too. But my reason for disliking the NRA is the exact opposite of the anti-gunners. And yes, I did, long ago, decide that they all suck. I haven't given up though. I'm still hoping our nation will see leaders again.


No_PC_BS
No_PC_BS

@Anse  Only Republicans suck. Dems can do no wrong, right Anse?

dwdickersonjr1
dwdickersonjr1

@corposanto@dwdickersonjr1@HauptstadtOk, perhaps "moral" is the wrong word. How about "civilized"? I know the world I was born into is not the world of today. FDR was before my time but he was an actual statesman, something we do not see today. I cannot see any person from any political party of today conducting themselves in the same manner as FDR.

corposanto
corposanto

@dwdickersonjr1 @Hauptstadt Folks from a different era were more moral than we humans today? You've lost me there I'm afraid. What in the world would you base that on? I mean the reason drama persists as it does is that man is essentially endowed with human nature which varies not with time or place. Flaws are flaws, virtues, virtues.

dwdickersonjr1
dwdickersonjr1

And yes, I have a very nuanced view in which I distrust all government. Please do not think I hate the rich - those who do more are entitled to more. But when we put people in office to make laws that govern our lives, it would be a good idea to make sure they live in the same world we do.

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