How I Got Banned from the "We Survived Bush, You Will Survive Obama" Facebook Page

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When I started following the popular We Survived Bush, You Will Survive Obama page I did so because I liked the sentiment it seemed to project of telling the doomsayers to breathe into a bag, pull on their big-girl panties and stop saying that the world was ending because of Obama's election. I was never naïve enough to think that I was getting unbiased information from the feed, but it was often a handy place to find interesting articles that sometimes stood up to proper vetting. I can still visit the page, but I'm no longer allowed to comment on anything on it, and here's how that happened.

Among the many infographics that get shared on the site was the following one containing an alleged quote by Abraham Lincoln that warned of corporations destroying America:

The money power preys upon the nation in time of peace and conspires against it in times of adversity. It is more despotic than monarchy, more insolent than autocracy, more selfish than bureaucracy.

I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me, and causes me to tremble for the safety of our country.

Corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people, until the wealth is aggregated in a few hands, and the republic is destroyed.


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I have a knack for recognizing bullshit quotes stuck into the mouths of revered dead politicians, so I went digging around to authenticate it. Rather than doing the easy thing, checking Snopes, I backtracked the quote until I reached a debunking of it in the October 3, 1898 edition of The New York Times from John G. Nicolay, Lincoln's private secretary and official biographer. He said the quote was a "bald, unblushing forgery. The great president never said it or wrote it, and never said or wrote anything that by the utmost license could be distorted to resemble it."

To WSBYWSO's credit, the quote has appeared in several noted historical works, including the Lincoln Encyclopedia by Archer H. Shaw. Nonetheless the whole thing was a hoax used during late 19th-century debates about the gold standard, and never appears in any of the collected writings of the 16th president.

Having satisfied myself that the quote was in error I decided to comment and let the main moderator, Lou Colagiovanni, know that he'd posted an error so that it could be taken down. He responded by somewhat condescendingly asking for links, which I then provided.

"See, how hard was that?" was the reply. "Don't just say you know something -- prove it."

Now, it seemed to me that a page that boasts almost 80,000 fans and allegedly receives over 50 million views a month should bear the burden of the vetting the information that they share, not little old me. I started to say so, when I noticed I no longer had the ability to enter comments. What's more, all my links had been deleted, as had the links that anyone else has posted pointing out the false origins of the quote.

One brave soul, Pamela Taylor, lasted almost 24 hours with her reply of, "Stop it. Just stop it. He didn't say it. It does not help the cause. It's such a right wing kind of thing to do. Honestly, it is not OK to lie, even on the correct side of the issue," before her words too were removed.


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kyndra2006
kyndra2006

Ha...Lou banned me yesterday after I posted my thoughts on believing in God. Basically stating each to his own..believe or don't believe...I personally prefer to believe and be wrong than not believe and burn in hell...he messaged me saying "yeah hi, your religious conformity disgusts me" "you're not welcome on my timeline"..... I think what he meant to say is "thanks for sharing your thoughts on your beliefs and NOT trying to force them on others" lol...he's full of anger and bitterness...I think he works for the devil himself. I'll pray for him : )

dustinredeagle
dustinredeagle

I just got banned for asking his opinion on many Obama policies that are like Bushs which so many Liberals hated, but are ignoring this time. Keep in mind I liked the page for the same reason and not only voted for Obama but also interned on his campaign 

wilsonnathan12
wilsonnathan12

A friend of mine just got banned for complaining about the slut shamming, "guess who's gay, and TMZ like posts lately. LOL

willkenn
willkenn

Lou Colagiovanni is insane. I got banned just for speaking out about the apparent disconnect  between the general opinions of his liberal readers and the HUGE stance he took in favor of LOTS more guns for personal protection following the Newtown shootings. And for that, I was done, after being kind of forgiven, and then after posting on his page about the tyrannical nature of his page administration, the ban became permanent. His e-mails in response were self serving and condescending, and assumed I was one of the conservative trolls he hates. But we're both liberals who love the President. There's no logical reason for my banishment. What's up with this nut?

pipher.robert
pipher.robert

My wife and I were just banned from the page while discussing a post on gun control.  We both made rational intelligent comments and were not disrespectful in any way.  I guess because our opinion was different than that of the moderator he/she banned us.  It is a shame because President Obama will be associated with such a terrible page!

elishaderan
elishaderan

I was recently banned by what has to be an error on a moderator's part. :( One of them must have mistaken my post as being anti-gay and it was actually a link to a site, which supports gay marriage. There was a series of negative comments regarding how God feels about homosexuality. I simply posted a link to a website, on which the writer noted parts of the bible, where God does NOT denounce gays. I posted that link in counter of the objectors, or 'haters.' Anyway, I'm a strong supporter of the group. I've only ever supported Lou and defended his credibility to non-supports (AKA 'trolls'). I've shared his posts with my own FB friends and have even discussed his site (in a positive light) in social settings. So, I left a message on the # that he listed on the FB page, however the ban is still in place. Since the moderators do no differentiate their identities from Lou's, I hope that he wholly trusts and supports their decisions on who they ban because I have a feeling it was not he who did it. If he recognizes 'regulars' on his page, then he should be familiar with my name by now. It is embarrassing that I was banned from the page and the person who banned me should be embarrassed for not actually reading my link and for banning a respecting user. I am inclined to think that they are in it for a numbers game (as in how many 'likes' they can accumulate) and the voices of the page's supporters may not be noticed or appreciated by at least one of their moderators, but I truly think that the moderator made a mistake and was simply being hasty in his/her actions. 

lovefreedon
lovefreedon

I was banned for disagreeing with a post he made.  I was respectful, I might add, and also Pro-Obama, like he is.  He then wrote and told me he knew exactly the type of person I am - entitled, rude, and always think I am right.  Then he proceeded to call me some four letter words/names.  He has some real anger issues.  Wish he was on the 'the other side" as he picks fights with people who are supporting the same candidate.  What a hypocrite he is.

likethegum
likethegum

The page would be a lot more interesting and effective if they focused more on engaging issues, and less on making fun of misspellings on handmade signs at right-wing rallies.  Of course, pointing that out in a comment got my "publication rights" revoked almost immediately. 

dennis
dennis

Late last night a post appeared saying the administrator agreed with right wingers that a bullet to the head of Jared Loughner was a good idea and would save taxpayers a lot of money. I was the first to respond, with a single word - "No." Within minutes there were many more responses, and six people "liked" my comment. And within a few more minutes the thread disappeared from my screen, and since then I have no longer been allowed to respond to "We survived Bush, you will survive Obama." Several bizarre comment threads appeared and disappeared shortly after - one of them challenged any reader to have the "temerity" to disagree with the administrator, challenged anyone to speak up and "be humiliated by me" (the administrator) and soon after another comment appeared saying probably at least a half dozen readers "had to google what 'temerity' means." That thread disappeared soon after as well. I sent a private message asking why I was banned from posting. There has been no response, so I have unliked "We survived Bush, you will survive Obama."

danb1972
danb1972

I have witnessed the abuse Lou Colagiovanni levels at posters, including sharing their contact info, names of family members, and association with Meetup groups, and threatening to hack into their financial data. As the moderator of "We survived Bush," it is the prerogative of Lou Colagiovanni to ban posters at his discretion or to be aggressive with posters, but he frequently steps over the line. Given that he is doing so while promoting the articles he wrote on Examiner.com (in addition to those coins and pins), the news aggregator should consider whether his actions put the company at risk. I suggest that any who feel they were treated in an abusive or threatening manner by Lou Colagiovanni consider sending an email to the legal department at the Examiner.com: legal@examiner.com.

Eric Anger
Eric Anger

This guy just blasted me for offering to help moderate We Survived Bush, You Will Survive Obama. I have posted the transcript to some other pages. Lou is a nasty person and people need to know where their information comes from. Character DOES matter. 

John Seaborn Gray
John Seaborn Gray

 You should let her back in if she agrees to go by Ke$ha Rogers.

Thatguy
Thatguy

Ya its funny how they profess all these rights, and when they post something that generalizes people that have thoughts against their complete thoughts they get cut off. I am still voting for Obama but these asshole just allow what they want on their site/page. A comment was made by the W.S.B.Y.W.S.O page that said something along the lines of dont tell me how to run my page, I dont go to yout work and tell you how to flip butgers. I replied to this post with "I wonder if Romney has this same point of view to people that are not millionaires." Instatly my post was removed and I can no longer post on the page. I thought these people were intelligent and posted interesting things about equal rights for all. But the sad thing is they go on about rights yet sensor people when they are called out for their own asinine statements that sound just like their opposition.

phil
phil

I hear u Jef (sp?).  I hate when someone allows someone else to get away with an irrational post because it supports the original's point of view.   You see it all the time on both sides of the political aisle. When I see it I feel like that crazy lady in the movie who broke dude's ankles with a sledgehammer...He didn't jump out of the cock-a-doodie car...

Jason A. Quest
Jason A. Quest

He's not a petty tyrant because he's a liberal. He's just a petty tyrant who doesn't like conservatives.

Jason A. Quest
Jason A. Quest

He did the same thing to me when I had the audacity to express the opinion that constantly ridiculing spelling mistakes on tea-party signs was a bit childish and definitely getting tiresome.

MadMac
MadMac

Thank you! Now I have something to post on twitter for tomorrow, too! You're a nice blogger/reporter/person.

Hanabi-chan
Hanabi-chan

BTW: I hope no one on this thread feels like I am insulting them. I just find the amount of sniping and immaturity of some people of Facebook amusing. Case in point: Two people I work with. Supposedly mature adults but Lord if someone makes a crack about them on Facebook..OH MAH GAWD!!!!!! And then the text and calls to friends to whine about  like.. oh my Gawd, so and so said something about me, or oh my GAWD!! (And then proceed to gossip about someone else.) I am a Luddite in one aspect in that I have no Facebook page  so that I may avoid this kind of idiocy. I went through junior high once. I have no ambition to visit that place again.

Jef With One F
Jef With One F

He let me interview him. Stay tuned tomorrow for more.

MadMac
MadMac

More like to his own ambition. Reading his response to Jef reminded me of Chuckles Sheen's phrase, "winning." This cat, Colagiovanni, really thinks he's da' man.

Jim C
Jim C

Because conservatives aren't lying liars who lie, then lie about lying?

sleezyscoundrel
sleezyscoundrel

After looking at the Facebook page, I came away thinking the moderator, Lou Colagiovanni, probably masturbates to posters of Mr and Mrs Obama.

nut-meg
nut-meg

If your link contained bible quotes, even those that support equality, it is enough to,get you banned. Lou hates religion and Anyone who mentions it.

cait4uf
cait4uf

 @likethegum

 As I was blocked for commenting on a post about "Obama coins for sale", which I said we should be putting our money towards re-electing Obama, not towards coins which we could by after the election. I'm serious living over this

 

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