Legislation Being Introduced to Preserve UT and A&M Rivalry Game

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Could the UT/A&M rivalry be legislated into continued existence?
Texas has a long-standing tradition of creating odd laws to fit nearly every circumstance. Hell, we have an official song for our state flower. But one has to wonder if State Senator Tommy Williams (R-The Woodlands) may be taking things a bit too far with his proposal to draft legislation that would require the University of Texas and Texas A&M University to play an annual football game every Thanksgiving as they have for many years.

With A&M moving to the Southeastern Conference and the future of the Big 12 very much in doubt, Thompson and State Rep. John Otto, who will sponsor the bill in the House, have decided this is a tradition that must be preserved and the best way to go about doing that is making it law.

It is unclear whether something like this is in the best interests of either school or even if the state could compel them to play a game, but many have questioned how A&M's move to the SEC would impact games between the two institutions and if losing the annual game was bad for college football.

The reality is that scheduling non-conference opponents is a complicated procedure for college football programs and 2012 represents the first time UT and A&M have had to consider something like this. Before they were in the Big 12, they played together in the Southwest Conference for over 80 years.

This also brings into question the Red River Shootout game between UT and Oklahoma held every year in Dallas if those two schools, both still in the Big 12, end up in different conferences after the dust from realignment ultimately settles. Whatever happens, the landscape of college football is sure to change dramatically over the next few years and some rivalries may pay the price.

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Texaslvs
Texaslvs

And its goodbye to a&m.  Oklahoma is our real rival, not a bunch faggies.

We Orangebloods really don't care if we don't play you again.  BFD!

Kamarywiley
Kamarywiley

Ut are cowards ndd mad we are leavin tha big 12 to play tha best teams in tha nation haha saw dem hons off cause Texas ain't big enough for the both of us we where here first ndd dis is between us ndd ut what does sc have to do witt us ut sucks point blank peroid Gig'em

Mary B.
Mary B.

Do our congress members not have anything better to do with their time in office? This is ridiculous.

Bossdanielguevara
Bossdanielguevara

This is so stupid if the UT TAMU rivalry is over who cares. UT OU is the real rivalry

Mike N.
Mike N.

The UT versus A&M rivalry sometimes reminds me of the India versus Pakistan rivalry, in that Pakistan defines its self-image as being not, and being against, India. I see plenty of A&M bumper stickers referring to UT (disparagingly) in some way, but have never seen a UT bumper sticker that gave two sh*ts about A&M.

Allison
Allison

Meh, you're right that I've seen a lot more anti-longhorn hate from aggies than anti-aggie hate from longhorns when it comes to merchandise, but there are idiots who are way too invested in the rivalry on both sides.

josh
josh

Texas A&M is still a school? I'd forgotten all about them. No one in the 40 acres gives a shit about playing A&M anymore. The "rivalry" has been dead in austin for over a decade.

The last time the game remotely mattered was when the aggies got drunk and played "really giant Jenga"on their own heads. Even then, the hotel had to food poison half the Texas team for the aggies to pull out a win.

TAMU is midlevel perennial top 50 at best and always will be. Might as well say Michigan's rivalry with Minnesota matters.

Brianna Foulds
Brianna Foulds

Wow.  It's one thing to bash each others football teams and call names, but to make fun of the fact that people were killed in a tragic accident is just cruel.  Think what you want of either team, but don't bring in loss of loved ones as a casual jab.  I hope you at least regret making a comment like that in the heat of a silly argument.

David
David

Not cool dude.  12 people died.  You're a total douche

Early Cuyler
Early Cuyler

Cleaning the water off my chin after reading the "really giant Jenga" quote.  Colossal-sized logs and alcohol, who saw that one coming?

Chris Robinson
Chris Robinson

I'm 100% on board with this it is a great idea to keep the game going no matter what!

SC Rooster
SC Rooster

The Texas Longhorns need to quit acting like butthurt little prima donnas and get with the program - or either turn in their Man Cards. If they are afraid of a SEC hardened aTm team in years to come, then let them just come-out of the closet and say it openly rather than refusing to play the Aggies based upon some imaginary technicality. And as far as interconference rivalry play is concerned I give you South Carolina vs Clemson, Florida vs FSU, Georgia vs Georgia Tech ...... now remind me, what was your lame little excuse again Longhorn fans?  I'll type it again.  Either agree to continue to play the 110 year old rivalry or turn in your Man Cards and prepare to be publicly admonished as orange blooded pansies until the rivalry is resumed.  Damnit Texas men, what you Longhorns are doing is unAmerican!

Geodixon
Geodixon

Let's see...A&M was sick of being UT's little brother and they took their ball and ran to the SEC.  Once they got there and realized that they aren't going to get any serious recruits from Louisiana, Alabama or Florida they decided that they needed to keep a rivalry game on their schedule so they'd have something to sell to Texas recruits.  No thanks.  No one at UT has given a crap about A&M for a long time.  We still have our rivalry game to draw recruits...something tells me Texas-OU is a bigger draw than A&M-Arkansas.  Don't let the door hit you on the way out boys...say hi to Arkansas for us...haven't heard much from them in the last 20 years.

SC Rooster
SC Rooster

Wow - y'all really are butthurt little girls in Austin huh? lulz. Get over it and play the game that has been played for 110 years. Of all places, I cannot believe that this is actually happening in the great state of Texas.  I mean what happened to you people in Austin? When did you become pantie wearing cowards?

Geodixon
Geodixon

Which team ran away and which team stayed?  Go be big and brave in the SEC Aggie...big, brave and 4-8...we'll keep winning bowl games that don't have .com in their name.

Early Cuyler
Early Cuyler

What is unAmerican(?) about making money?

SC Rooster
SC Rooster

Do you really, I mean honestly, believe that Texas refusing to play aTm is about making money (sic)?  If so, then you may want to give it more thought.  Interconference rivalry games between BCS AQ conferences are big-ratings TV paydays for the programs involved.  Oh, and since you asked I'll happily educate you; UnAmerican is a pejorative term of US political discourse which is applied to people OR institutions in the US seen as deviating from US norms ... in this case of the Texas Longhorns refusing to play aTm the word is used with regard to cowardice, excessive greed and pansy pantie-wasted behavior being illustrated by the Longhorn decision makers in Austin.

thetruth
thetruth

SC, did you even read the article?  I am a UT grad and certainly wouldn't put it past DeLoss Dodds to do so out of spite, "business concerns," etc., but UT has still never officially said that it would/will refuse to continue the series with A&M.

The idea is pure Aggie conjecture/fantasy, much like their general self-image and their assertion that us talking shit back to them lately proves that we "care" about them.  No, in reality (as opposed to Aggie version thereof), they brought this latest reality check upon themselves by 'poking the sleeping bear' a little too much (i.e. asserting that they now have some kind of definitive upper hand in football, are the better program, etc. despite facts showing otherwise).

Check out this link if you're so inclined.  It sums up a lot of Aggie "arguments," but especially this nonsense that UT would ever be "afraid" to play them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A...

Finally, I personally thought that the LHN was ill-advised to begin with and consider sports simply a different beast to which normal free-market principles shouldn't always/automatically be applied.  Therefore, I can't say that I'm proud of or that I agree with all of UT's recent actions.

However, A&M's tantrum over UT's admittedly very capitalistic behavior seems pretty hypocritical and ironic.  A&M has a very strong conservative reputation, almost every Aggie I've ever known certainly fits that description, and they had been more than happy to accept a greater-than-equal share of TV revenue in the Big 12 (thanks to UT).  Now they're acting like drama-queen crybaby commies.

In any event, they're somebody else's problem now, and the UT haters are a lot more envious than UT is in the wrong.

Allison
Allison

Yes, everyone who ever went to UT (who are all closted gay men evidently?) had a hand in this situation. Every single one of us. Even the ones who think this is stupid. I'm glad the truth is finally out there.

SC Rooster
SC Rooster

The Texas TV network deal is in the past. It's done - spilled milk. Everyone in the Big XII was/is unhappy about how y'all perpetrated that upon the rest of the conference.  It has nothing to do with continuing to play the rivalry game except when evoked as an excuse by Longhorn fans.

Early Cuyler
Early Cuyler

We don't recognize that school with the faded-orange jerseys as UT down here son.  Funny that someone from South Carolina would use the kissing cousins analogy.  That's still legal up there isn't it?

SC Rooster
SC Rooster

You're welcome for the lesson. You may find many links to such stories simply by googling "Texas refuses to play A&M." Google is your friend. You do not care what someone in SC thinks about Tennessee?  I'm confused. Yes, Lattimore is a beast and a really good kid and he plays for a team that is unafraid to play their instate rivalry, regardless of the bad blood and regardless that we are in different conferences. You make it happen for the fans. The Texas vs aTm rivalry is like kissin' cousins compared to the hatred and bitterness in the South Carolina/Clemson rivalry .... be we still play the frickin' game.  Get with the program Longhorns.  Quit being such little girls. Why has Austin become such a liberal progressive bastion of whiny crybabies anyway? Seriously. Y'all cut it out and play by American Male rules.

Early Cuyler
Early Cuyler

For clarification's sake(you are from South Carolina after all), I thought you were referencing UT's new cable chanel in your original post.  And like Geodixon points out, you get ten UT fans together and ask them what the most important game of the year is, nine of the would tell you the Oklahoma game.  A&M's inferiority complex has been old news down here for years.

Early Cuyler
Early Cuyler

Thanks for the lesson.  Now, would you kindly send me a link to a story that says UT is refusing to play A&M?  Also, I need to ask myself why I give a rat's ass what someone in South Carolina thinks about UT.  I do like Lattimore, that guy is a beast.

RealityBites
RealityBites

Really? Really? You'd think that our legislators have much more important things to do like say, fix the school systems or unemployment, but I guess you'd be wrong.

MDO
MDO

These are state schools that receive loads of money fromt the state. I think this is a good idea, and I could care less about UT or A&M. This is a big rivalry, fans love it, and it is a big deal for students.

lemonpartyAg
lemonpartyAg

The thing is, no one wants to play, or even associate with Texas anymore.  Not NU, not A&M, not OU, no one.  There's no point in trying to legislate something that no one wants.  Texas can start its new conference with Rice, UofH, and maybe SMU or some other school that has interest in putting the Horns on the schedule.  We've got bigger fish to fry in our new conference.

Wyatt
Wyatt

Nice handle?

Early Cuyler
Early Cuyler

If by bigger fish to fry you mean trying to win four games a year in your new conference, then more power to you.

lemonpartyAg
lemonpartyAg

No, I mean schools that are better at football than the University of Texas.  And see if you can actually beat Iowa State and Baylor this year before running your mouth.

Early Cuyler
Early Cuyler

No doubt, Texas is down right now, much like your Aggies are pretty good for the first time in years.  I find it laughable however, that you Aggies get sick of living in UT's shadow so you put your brilliant minds together and decide to go to the SEC, where you will be lucky year in and year out to win four or five games.  By the way, 75-37-5 and 4 and 180. That would be UT's lead in the series, and amount of national championships UT has won and the average weight for a female student after her freshman year at A&M.

urbanhoustonian
urbanhoustonian

TCU has been conference hopping for years while maintaining an annual matchup with SMU. Can't imagine it would be any more difficult for Texas and A&M.

josh
josh

The amount of money, exposure, risk and pride at stake in tcu/smu playing non conference is nothing compared to Two BCS schools playing.

Apples and oranges.

Early Cuyler
Early Cuyler

I am a life-long UT fan.  I could honestly not care less if UT and A&M don't play anymore.  It would suck if UT and Oklahoma stop their annual series.  Let the Whining Aggies go be a doormat year in and year out in the SEC, who gives a shit.

Wyatt, that comment is beneath you, your better than that.  

Wyatt
Wyatt

The "gubmit" thing was childish, OK. But I'm serious. Why is this the state government's business?

Wyatt
Wyatt

I guess you could argue that the game brings in money, and therefore the government is protecting a public investment. I guess.

Brittanie Shey
Brittanie Shey

Right. Because there's nothing better for our government to do.

MDO
MDO

Actually, being state schools it is totally within the state government's jurisdiction so to speak. It is Texas tradition.

Early Cuyler
Early Cuyler

I totally agree with you, it is not the state government's business at all. 

Wyatt
Wyatt

Another free-market, small-gubmit conservative sticking to his guns.

ArgieBargie
ArgieBargie

I'm sure this piece of legislation will create an unprecedented number of jobs. And then they get offended when you call them "Aggietards"...

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