Why Elsa Not Having a Prince in Frozen Is Actually a Problem

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At first me noticing this (On viewing six) helped better explain Elsa's initial rejection of Anna's wish to marry Hans. In addition to the fact that marrying people you just met is stupid outside of Disney movies, she was likely just as concerned with placing a thirteenth-rate nobody that close to the throne. I'm not saying that she knew Hans was plotting her death. She clearly didn't, but she did know the worth of his hand in marriage and presumably thought more highly of her sister's own value both her self and the kingdom.

And of course she couldn't explain any of this to Anna. Elsa had to have been undergoing training for her future rule as queen, whereas Anna spent most of her isolation going stir-crazy with longing for human affection. It all makes sense!

Then I realized that even though there was dancing and a party, likely specifically held to help her begin the process of finding a husband to continue the royal line, Elsa does not seem to consider any responsibility to attend to visiting royalty for that purpose. No, not every woman needs a man or vice versa, but every monarchy does need babies. Yet neither Elsa nor the majority of her guests pursue this basic function of their ruling class.

I understand that none of this is what the movie is about. And hey, you could also take the whole plot where Elsa reveals and masters her powers to be an act of establishing even more independent power for Arendelle despite nothing like that being hinted at in the film. I'm happy to see a string of Dinsey films empowering young girls by having heroines that do not require romantic counterparts to complete or define them. That's very much progress.

On the other hand, I do wish they'd quit making their points using outdated systems of government where this stuff is simply unfeasible. It would make the adults goaded into over-analyzation through repeated viewings a little less twitchy. At least it would me.

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Cineph1le
Cineph1le

I'm about to debunk the fuck out of this.

"Why the hell didn't his brothers show up to try the same thing?"

- At the end of For the First Time in Forever, Anna just happened to cross paths with Hans. His older brothers are probably there too but Hans was the lucky one that got to meet Anna. Which is ironic because he's the unlucky 13 out of all the brothers. Did it it occur to you that maybe Hans' brothers aren't as interested as becoming a king as he is? That maybe they've already come to terms with their long line to the throne?

"... even though there was dancing and a party, likely specifically held to help her begin the process of finding a husband to continue the royal line..."

- The party wasn't 'likely specifically' held to help her find a husband, it was held for the purpose of celebration. You know, since Elsa just became queen and all.

"... every monarchy does need babies."

- This is a magical Disney form of government where Elsa can rule on her own. Not too different from Merida in Brave. Notice how it NEVER comes up that Arendale NEEDS a king? The only people saying Elsa needs a king are the viewers that can't handle a fairy tale where the princess/queen remains single.

"...I do wish they'd quit making their points using outdated systems of government..."

- Once again, this is a magical Disney form of government that's similar to monarchy, not actual monarchy.

KEY WORD: similar

Movies are just stories. They have a beginning, middle, and end. Anything that doesn't help tell the story doesn't need to be in the story/movie. This story isn't about Elsa finding a king, it's about her coming to terms with her power. When you see Elsa not letting her dad or sister touch her in the beginning of the film you can assume she's definitely not interested in letting anyone else touch her, which would be the prince you want her to have so badly.

If you can't handle this movie then I'd suggest you don't watch it a 7th time.

peichen_alpha
peichen_alpha

It is a known fact many suitors were presented to Elsa but being she is, she rejected them all. Now the fact she have ice power and can singlehandedly protect Arendelle is out, there I'll be more powerful suitors presenting themselves. Maybe Elsa will land herself a high ranking prince from the great powers such as UK, France, Prussia, Austria, Russia.

pianogirl
pianogirl

She is going to hit it off with jack frost :) :) :) it´s perfect

mtablan
mtablan

 Just like every one else stupid in this world, you are really looking way above what Disney has actually meant to make for the movie. This article is akin to reading way too into a detail of a novel when the author really had no intention of even having literary devices etc in their book. They just make a book because it's a book. Now let's say you, "Jef With One F," were to write a novel about the importance of sisterhood, or really any sort of moral excluding love and fantasy weddings, and some dumb ass who reads your novel and tells you "Heyy Jef, I read your novel and I realized how many times you foreshadowed this and made this metaphor really hidden. Oh yeah and I totally saw the personification at the beginning of the novel. I just wish you can sort of relate the actual government and law of that area similar to the law here where the story apparently takes place" etc etc. What do you say? Well, most authors will tell you straight in the face "What the f*** are you talking about buddy? I wrote the book with a story line for people to JUST READ and enjoy not because I wanted you to interpret it." You, my friend, are doing THE EXACT SAME THING that idiot people are doing, is OVER ANALYZING the movie to something that is not even a thing dude!! Or.. woman!!! If you truly understand that this movie has nothing to do with the monarchy, government, politics, then WHY DID YOU WRITE THIS? Why did you even think about this in the first place? Why would you write an article that is irrelevant to the movie at all? You are just comparing the "Government" system in that movie to the government system and saying it should be more closely related to real life's old laws. This is a DISNEY MOVIE, a CARTOON MOVIE, it DOES NOT have to relate to anything in the real world. Godamn people, give movies and novels a break for crying out loud

ginagrrl
ginagrrl

This article basically says "I don't have a problem with a gay subtext, but why wasn't she looking for a BOYFRIEND?" You can't first reject heteronormativity and then base your argument on a heteronormative presupposition. That's a logical contradiction from which nothing (and everything) can be derived. Astonishingly bad reasoning I'd have given a C- to if one of my college sophomores had written it.

rbyrd7
rbyrd7

She may not feel a need to start a family immediately but from a political standpoint an immediate marriage would almost be a necessity. Her kingdom would need all the protection it could get since it is so wealthy. And especially since most places would see a small kingdom ruled by a woman as being weak and vulnerable so Arendelle would be highly open to attack. Also being a lesbian wouldn't matter. I'm sure many of the queens, princesses, etc. from the past were forced into marriages either by parents or for political gain even though they were actually lesbians. At the time refusing marriage because you're a lesbian wasn't an option. Plus it would have almost certainly led to a revolt, probably an invasion from a foreign country seeking land and wealth, excommunication from the church, and most likely death. Either way it's a good movie and going this deep into it is way more than over analysis. But this is what happens when Game of Thrones fans/medieval buffs watch Disney movies. :)

gods.little.girl317
gods.little.girl317

Yeah I totally agree! Because even though the whole movie is about a girl who has magical snow powers that makes and eternal winter and a snowman come to life, trolls that can turn into stones, a reindeer  with a very highly developed personality, a kingdom of isolation that was never at any point in three years under attack, AND a little boy that basically runs away and was never searched for the fact that it's not entirely accurate is TOTALLY wrong.

kltk
kltk

Um, they were only orphaned for three years, not thirteen. It was probably closer to thirteen that *Elsa* was isolated from everyone but her parents...but that actually goes a long way toward explaining Elsa's lack of interest in marrying as soon as the crown is on her head. As near as I can tell, instead of teaching her statecraft, the focus was entirely on teaching her emotional repression in an attempt to control her powers. No wonder she wasn't looking for a mate!

specimen_meg
specimen_meg

Of course Elsa wasn't in the least bit interested in finding a suitor - she was afraid to touch so much as her own parents or sister. That sort of rules out the option to procreate. And who's to say she wasn't approached? Sure, we didn't see it in the movie, but there was a pretty considerable gap of time where her sister was off gallivanting with Hans and we have no idea what Elsa was dealing with. Didn't Hans actually say that "nobody was getting anywhere" with Elsa? Isn't it possible that his brothers actually did on multiple occasions prior to (or even during) the party make some sort of attempt?

Secondlovers Houston
Secondlovers Houston

Let it goooo! Let it gooooo! Jk, cool insight. Disney films = Second Lovers music inspiration. There, I said it.

Eliseo Ramos
Eliseo Ramos

It's just a movie-- and a not-so-great one at that.

bryona
bryona

Whats really sad is the book this was based on was about an empowering young woman's adventure into womanhood. The movie she relied a lot on a love story and a bodyguard. This is whats wrong with frozen other then the animation being not so great. Disney and Pixar your art was better then video-games, now its just looking lazy, eyecolor change and hair bam completely different person right?!?. 

thetammyjo
thetammyjo

Elizabeth I never got married and she reigned and ruled over a very powerful kingdom for a long, long time.


Also is this Elsa 50?  No?  Then she has plenty of time.

drusilla.grey
drusilla.grey

Or perhaps the parents had already arranged something for her for a political alliance.

Or maybe she is like Queen Elizabeth I, and doesn't feel the need to start entertaining the idea of suitors just yet - or ever.

Or maybe she *is* a lesbian :)

Either way, it doesn't matter. It's still a Disney movie which makes it inherently flawed.

And OMFR, am I sick to death ot this movie and soundtrack!

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